Posted on 11/17/2004 3:11:06 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
Consultants tell these news organizations how to slant the news to attract a certain audience who will buy the products they advertise. The news media is a business which depends on the customer to buy what they sell.
Liberals tend to spend money they do not have by using charge cards. The news media could care less about patriotism, only selling to the customer. A cetain liberal customer is reached by keeping the news at a 6th grade level.
I have been to New York, both before and after Rudy.
I have only two words to say to those who think that liberal pantywaist cowards are not the norm in New York City: Kitty Genovese.
You had to reach back into history for that one, huh?
I have seen more heroics in NYC, before, during and after 9/11, than you will see in a lifetime outside of a war zone.
Moyers is a liar (suprise, suprise). I saw him and his comrades claiming there would be a coup if kerry won. I couldn't believe it at first, but they went on in this vein for some time. Naturally, moyers now denies it.
Moyers: "I had in mind what happened after the voting in 2000 when Republicans dispatched Congressional staffers to Miami to mount public protests."
That's funny! Only people who raced to Florida to mount public protects were DemonRat lawyers, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Moyer's fellow OLD media commies.
He's a bastardized lyin sh*thead!
I may have had to reach back, but I sure did have a perfect counterexample, didn't I?
As to the 'heroics' you've seen in NYC, I'm sure you have seen plenty. With more people there, odds are good you would see more 'heroics.' Heck, I'll even bet you do see more than I do in my lifetime.
But that doesn't mean that the town is full of heroes.
And btw, war zones don't make heroes. Escapable yet willing self-sacrifice makes heroes. Someone who shoots an enemy soldier with a gun pointing back at them is not necessarily a hero. Even someone who takes out a whole enemy regiment isn't necessarily a hero. But someone who willingly exposes himself to mortal danger to save others, when he could easily escape that danger himself--that's a hero.
I won't argue this point. During the Clinton years, it was common knowledge in certain Washington, D.C., Crystal City/ Alexandria/Vienna/Reston, VA "watering holes" where regulars from the Pentagon, the CIA, Secret Service and other agency career employees would hang out and compare horror stories.
Call it what you want. There were some people in Washington that absolutely hated Clinton, and discussed certain potential events. That's all that I will say on this subject.
just what I thought, a TROLL!
Kitty G became a symbol for an uncaring city, etc. etc. etc. The city was viewed in decline, as compared to the suburbs of Long Island and Westchester. Less well known is that in those days fights between husbands and wives, girlfriends/boyfriends were frequent and loud. Nobody ever reported them. So that was a factor. I could find a hundred similar incidents out in the burbs or rural communities of brutality that people turned their back on.
Consider yourself a conservate sleeper cell. I'm from California I know where of you speak.
Call me what you want. (I have been here since 1998, by the way.) I know what I saw and heard.
I see you have been here a total of 2 months.
The day after the elections, O'Reilly teased the Moyers things just a little bit, and I looked for something about it and couldn't find squat. Finally, I see a little bit about it.
"I have only two words to say to those who think that liberal pantywaist cowards are not the norm in New York City: Kitty Genovese."
This is a forty year old case. You'll have to come up with something better than that. Besides that Kew Gardens was a conservative italian neighborhood - they probably all voted Nixon in 1960. While most new yorkers idea of the red states is informed mainly by viewing "Deliverence," your ideas about nyc seem informed by Batman reruns.
"in those days fights between husbands and wives, girlfriends/boyfriends were frequent and loud."
This is a good point. If I went to the window every time there was a noisy arguement outside I would never get any sleep. After a few drinks at a bar couples often decide to resolve their relationship problems under my window.
D, provide a similar incident where 40+ people watched while an innocent girl was murdered for no reason, without a single spectator calling the police. I think you stretch it to say that because fights were common people assumed that it was a boyfriend-girlfriend fight--the woman yelled for help, and many said they just didn't want to get involved!
O, I don't base my perception of NYC on Batman--I base it on the voters that run the city and consistently vote yellow. I don't think much at all has changed in New York, regardless of how old the Kitty Genovese story is. And I'd love to hear anything that demonstrates how it wouldn't happen again today.
Bill Moyers is a treasured resource of ours. I hope the psranoid drunk keeps yapping for some time to come. One does not ALWAYS need to play fair, when defeating the opposition. That is simply asking too much of our species. My hoping for dysfunctional spokespersons for the opposition is I think in the venal sin category, and I am comfortable with it, particularly since I don't think there is a hell (however much I might wish that there were frankly).
"There were some serious conservative radicals who may very well have attempted to toss Kerry, based on his un-American activities in the past."
Can you name one? I never heard this from anybody.
I always did kinda like Ed Koch, almost despite myself.
Now you can remove the "despite myself" part.
I may disagree with Ed over nearly every social issue in America (he is a pro-abortion, big taxing liberal), but he has won my respect for the rest of his life during this election. Ed swam upwater for Bush against the tide of malicious, unpatriotic left-wingers who kept trying to pull him down to their Michael Moore-esque level of "thought".
By backing our Prez and our troops in a time of war (not to mention realizing the need to fight Islamist terrorism in Iraq) Koch proved that he truly does have the best interests of the country at heart, and the Democratic party could do with a few more like him.
First off, the chances of Kitty G happening again are slim. For one thing, there is now a 911 system, which didn't exist back then. There are also patrol cars dispatched via radio. When Kitty was murdered NYC was still a cop on the beat, no radios, town and call your local precinct. Anyway, response time for cops averages under 7 minutes, I believe(it could be slightly more or less). So, NYC today is basically a city of 8 million cell phones hooked up to 911, which is hooked up to radio dispatch etc. etc.
In regards to a similar incident -- I can't remember one, either inside or outside of NYC, since my memory doesn't work that way. However, not a day goes by when I don't read of some horror taking place in the burbs. Some woman who starves her kids or a decomposing body, etc. etc. etc. And the neighbors always say, "He was so quiet. Minded his own business."
As for voting -- going back to the days of Petey Stuyvesant, New Yorkers have always voted in what's best for business. New York is a commerce town.
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