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To: WildTurkey

Mortality
7% IP 9% Control Group

Yes, the case is closed. The control group had higher mortality, wturkey.

You not only don't have the document, you are willingly letting others do your thinking for you.

Shame on you.

I'm disgusted. But not surprised. When you find some dignity come back and maybe I'll engage in honest intellectual discourse with you. But probably not.

Good luck. Oh, you don't believe in that. Well.... then, have a life.

BTW, I'm praying for you.


321 posted on 11/18/2004 4:22:33 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: WildTurkey

And to paraphrase a Henny Youngmanism:

100% of them will die eventually.


322 posted on 11/18/2004 4:24:43 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: ColoCdn
You not only don't have the document

Ok. Post the document and show your numbers are correct.

Show that the control group was NOT more sick to start with.

Show that the prayed-over group had a higher percentage of re-admissions to the Coronary Care Unit, needed 4 times the number of temporary pacemakers as the control group, and three times the number of permanent pacemakers.

Explain why he did not submit his study to the Journal of American Medicine.

323 posted on 11/18/2004 5:50:59 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn
Mortality 7% IP 9% Control Group

Statistically insignificant, particularly when you consider that he did not correct for the different initial conditions concerning the illness of the test subjects.

Conclusion: Don't bother to pray to say someone's life.

324 posted on 11/18/2004 6:18:50 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn
A little exercise in thought. For the sake of the argument, let us assume your position that the Byrd study proves that God responds to IP then it follows from his study that God responds to those that receive the most prayers, not those that are most deserving.

What kind of God would respond to a few extra prayers by a stranger rather than to a mother's prayer for her son or a husband's prayer for his wife?

Is it compassion when God sides with the ones that receive the most prayers?

326 posted on 11/18/2004 6:36:38 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn

No significant differences between the prayer and control groups were found in days in CCU, days in hospitial, discharge medications and deaths, despite explicit prayers for "a rapid recovery and prevention of death.

Are we thus to conclude from all of the data derived in this study that although God may reflexively respond to the will of the majority, his manifestations are so marginal as to approach insignificance?


327 posted on 11/18/2004 6:42:00 PM PST by WildTurkey
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