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To: Howlin

I've got the book, and have been reading it. Skipping ahead to the conclusion, he doesn't call for throwing Israel to the wolves.

He points out the painful truth, supporting Israel makes enemies all over the world, especially among Muslims, especially in the Middle East. Like it or not, that's the truth.

There's no way to sugarcoat it.

It's also true that Scheuer doesn't like some of Israel's policies, but that's his right. At any rate, the vast majority of the book has nothing to do with Israel.

His main conclusion is that we must accept that we are at war with many Islamics, and that Al Qaeda isn't an aberration. The war isn't going to go away.


44 posted on 11/17/2004 11:22:32 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
Sorry, I do NOT agree with this at all:

First, the end of all U.S. aid to Israel, the elimination of the Jewish state, and in its stead the creation of an Islamic Palestinian state. Second, the withdrawal of all U.S. and Western military forces from the Arabian peninsula — a shift of most units from Saudi Arabia to Qatar fools no Muslims and will not cut the mustard — and all Muslim territory. Third, the end of all U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq. Fourth, the end of U.S. support for, and acquiescence in, the oppression of Muslims by the Chinese, Russian, Indian, and other governments. Fifth, restoration of full Muslim control over the Islamic world's energy resources and a return to market prices [sic], ending the impoverishment of Muslims caused by oil prices set by Arab regimes to placate the West. Sixth, the replacement of U.S.-protected Muslim regimes that do not govern according to Islam by regimes that do. For bin Laden, only Mullah Omar's Afghanistan met these criteria; other Muslim regimes are candidates for annihilation.

46 posted on 11/17/2004 11:23:45 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Read it, and concur.

Whatever - Scheuer shall be portrayed as having attacked the Bush administration, so he's dead meat around here, regardless of the merit of his actual case.

51 posted on 11/17/2004 11:27:33 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: CobaltBlue

I doubt there is anyone this side of the liberal looney left, who is under the delusion that this war is going away. Making Israel a sacrifical lamd to appease the Hate filled Muslim terrorists and their God, Howling Mad Allah; would accomplish nothing. Their rabid hatred is against every human on earth that has not been Allahized.

They hate everybody-they have just hated the Jews longer.


62 posted on 11/17/2004 11:40:46 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Abortion has killed 45 million Americans-how many world wide, has global warming killed?)
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To: CobaltBlue
"His main conclusion is that we must accept that we are at war with many Islamics"

What insight the man has.

And is suggestion for winning this war is what?

Appeasement.
98 posted on 11/17/2004 12:49:27 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist ")
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To: CobaltBlue
[ He points out the painful truth, supporting Israel makes enemies all over the world, especially among Muslims, especially in the Middle East. Like it or not, that's the truth. There's no way to sugarcoat it. ]

True.. The Jews have been hated by every country at every time, though all the ages.. except by America.. What have the Jews done wrong.?. Oh! thats right, they bred a Jesus..

Evil is as evil does.. Birds of a feather flock together..
And for sure.. Sinbad is not just a comic on TV..

110 posted on 11/17/2004 1:28:47 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: CobaltBlue
He points out the painful truth, supporting Israel makes enemies all over the world, especially among Muslims, especially in the Middle East. Like it or not, that's the truth.

Very true. I have a number of Muslim friends and their only problem with the US is the blanket support we give for Israel. In their eyes, the US needs to force Israel to the negotiating tables. The grudge in the Middle East is against the British, not US. We are in large part responsible for the hatred we are feeling.

112 posted on 11/17/2004 1:32:25 PM PST by killjoy (I'm John Kerry and I'm relieved of duty.)
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