Bin Laden Expert Steps Forward

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/12/60minutes/printable655407.shtml ^ | November 14, 2004

[Max Combined]

"It's got debating points for the American people to think about and decide."

Is is supposed to be some great debating point that the Arabs want to destroy Israel? Do you think a guy has to work at the CIA for 22 years to come up with this point?

Name the one most compelling and original debating point that this guy has come up with in his book.

[DTogo]

LOL!!

[crosslink]

I assume, from your statement, you do not agree with Tommy Franks who was at Tora Bora and states this was false.He stated we had special opps guys at Tora Bora.

I guess it's easy to make Monday morning quarterback calls from Langley after the fact. Just like Mr. Kerry.

[hosepipe]

[ What is new for Scheuer - who resigned from the intelligence agency on Friday after 22 years - is commenting by name. ]

Porter Goss has indeed crawled a few napes..
Must be a lot CIA democrats' skins are crawling...
And not a few foreign espionage specialists are goin "damn" too..
He.He.He... Go Porter... GO...

[Howlin]

I agree 100 percent. I'm glad you caught that, too.

[Hoplite]

I guess it's easy to make Monday morning quarterback calls from Langley after the fact. Just like Mr. Kerry.

Scheuer notes that the Afghan warlords will take anybody's money - but will breach contract, as their troops did at Tora Bora, when their objectives don't match with those they are purportedly working for.

In short, the CIA had knowledge that we could trust our Afghan allies only as far as we could throw them, but this knowledge was ignored, with the results being that Osama, if he was there, and a large portion of Al Qaeda operatives at Tora Bora escaped through a cordon manned by our Afghan auxiliaries.

So it's not really a case of Monday morning quarterbacking as much as it is a case of trying to tell the coach on Saturday that certain members of his team won't be playing out of the coach's playbook, and then getting defamed for his efforts when he makes it public that we haven't been utilizing our own intelligence product when planning our activities.

[McGavin999]

I'm getting to the point where I think we need to sell all the network broadcast bands. These networks are working against the best interest of this country and they are doing in on OUR airspace. Shut them down.

[Howlin]

He resigned last Friday (after Goss got there) when the "higher ups" wouldn't let him go on TV and taut his book.

And I agree, we MUST stand with Israel. Period.

[Howlin]

and Scheuer proposes appeasing bin Laden by helping him reach his goals and thus end the danger to us that bin Laden poses to us.

I'm glad you said that; that's what I thought he was saying, too.

[hosepipe]

[ He points out the painful truth, supporting Israel makes enemies all over the world, especially among Muslims, especially in the Middle East. Like it or not, that's the truth. There's no way to sugarcoat it. ]

True.. The Jews have been hated by every country at every time, though all the ages.. except by America.. What have the Jews done wrong.?. Oh! thats right, they bred a Jesus..

Evil is as evil does.. Birds of a feather flock together..
And for sure.. Sinbad is not just a comic on TV..

[killjoy]

Read ALL of it; this guy was IN CHARGE of finding bin Laden and he thinks it's FINE if we dump Israel.

Read it again. He didn't say dump Israel. He said we need to stop giving them a blank cheque, which is true. Most all of the Arab resentment towards the US is because of Israel. Arabs have zero historical problem with the US, their grudge is against the UK. Until there is peace in Israel/Palestine, this is going to get worse. The US must come down very hard on Israel and the Palestinians to create a workable peace.

[killjoy]

He points out the painful truth, supporting Israel makes enemies all over the world, especially among Muslims, especially in the Middle East. Like it or not, that's the truth.

Very true. I have a number of Muslim friends and their only problem with the US is the blanket support we give for Israel. In their eyes, the US needs to force Israel to the negotiating tables. The grudge in the Middle East is against the British, not US. We are in large part responsible for the hatred we are feeling.

[texasbluebell]

let me guess - he has a book to sell and *** imagine that *** it's Bush's fault! When does he appear on 60 Minutes?

He beat you to it. He was on this past Sunday, just 2 days after he quit his job.

[texasbluebell]

[Chris] Matthews says "Suppose we were a good country, would bin Laden leave us alone?".

I heard him say that, when Rush played the clip today. It's stunning that Matthews could come out with such a comment.

Hey Matthews, if you happen to come across this thread, my advice to you is move to Cuba.

ObL hasn't attacked them, that must be the kind of "good country" you'd rather live in.

You deserve to live there, not sure even they deserve you however.

[CyberAnt]

When this guy was on Greta, NO MENTION WAS EVER MADE REGARDING TIME PERIOD OF THOSE EVENTS. It was purposefully stated to IMPLY it was during the Bush admin. I was livid.

[Howlin]

Exactly.

Not one interviewer that I have seen -- and he's been EVERYWHERE -- has mentioned Clinton.

[Faith-Hope]

What happen to the times when you went to work for the CIA and you never talked about let alone write about it?

[Age of Reason]

Read ALL of it; this guy was IN CHARGE of finding bin Laden and he thinks it's FINE if we dump Israel.

And that doesn't tell you something?

[B.Bumbleberry]

Thanks for the link. Amazing if true. Makes you wonder what other fuzzy-headed thinking is going on down there in Foggy Bottom.

[CobaltBlue]

we must stand by Israel.

Yes, that is what I think.