Posted on 11/17/2004 10:32:59 AM PST by TapTheSource
I mean so what? AS opposed if we were to fight the Chinese on Taiwan's behalf."
If not on Tiawan's behalf, it will be something else.
.....Me too....
Thanks, but no thanks.....
Happy Thanksgiving!
:-)
"Happy Thanksgiving!"
Right back at ya!!!
You are so right! I had forgotten about that and how they have infiltrated the stock market, businesses, etc. All they'd have to do is ....... guess I should not go on. In another thread someone told me that a lot of "bad" people keep track of Free Republic and pick up a lot of information. For a start, how do we get rid of the ACLU?
You asserted we "must not" abandon Taiwan. Wny not? Makes me wonder how many are invested in Taiwan, and want the US soldier to protect their kitties.
We can't keep opening new battle fronts, however much your money might be threatened. There's also a half-dozen potential fronts in Africa; the whole continent will probably be solidly Islam very shortly. I'd rather be red than sharia.
This thread reads like a little seminar trial-baloon--evangelizing for saving Poor Little Taiwan, an economic powerhouse. South Korea is another Poor Little Baby, with a giant military that somehow can neither protect itself or send a soldier to help us in Iraq
Nuts to them.
I suspect there's some global corporations that want their own little red/white/blue army. No way.
No they are risking us by investing in China. What the heck are they thinking?
| Propaganda | Truth |
|---|---|
| Putin is a communist | Putin has implemented a flat tax of 13%, got rid of the Sales tax, set the corporate tax at 24%, cut the VAT in half, cut 1/3rd off the payroll tax. He has cut back on government size (shrinking government). He has put up 20% of Russian land for sale, the government is in the process of divesting of the remainder of its shares in various companies. There has been judicial reform to a sitting jury from a triumpherate of judges. There has also been a total reform of the banking center, in order to make it transparent. |
| Russia and China are allied to destroy the US | Russia has recently passed up China for an oil export route and choosen instead Japan. China had to turn to Iran. Russia is rearming in Siberia, while she arms India with over 400 new tanks, a wing of new aircraft, two nuclear submarines and an aircraft carrier to intercept Chinese shipping. Russia has armed S.Korea with T-90s, armed Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam and Khazakstan. Russia has attempted (by itself and through the US) to arm Taiwan also. The majority of weapons sold to China are aimed at the US navy, to which China will not be able to catch up for at least another generation. |
| Russia trains with China to destroy the US/West | This year alone, Russia has had joint manuevers with Japan & S.Korea and then again with the US and UK off the Chinese Coast. |
| There is a Putin pandering mafia after me. | There is a dedicated group of Freepers who are out to expose this propagandist's lies and distortions, for which he has already been banned twice. |
| If you are against me you must be a (take your choice) A. communist, B. Putin lover, C. Russian Orthodox, D. Russian, E. Delusional, F. All of the Above | G. None of the Above. You must be a lover of truth and a hater of yellow journalism, empty conspiracy theories and plain propaganda. |
| The FSB/Russians are behind all the terrorism, including the theater and Beslan. | Only someone blind or shilling for Islam would on a continuous basis shift blame away from the terrorists and onto the victims. |
| Russia is giving Iran nukes. | Wrong. Russia is providing a civilian nuclear reactor with a contract to return spent rods. Do most of us agree with this? No, we are against this. Is this nuclear weapons technology? No. Our allie Pakistan with the assistance of our Most Valued Trading partner China are giving Iran missile and bomb technology. |
| Russia, and Putin in particular, hate Israel and wish to destroy it. | Wrong. Russia is Israel's second closest allie and trading partner and provides Israel with most of its oil and sells it weapons technology. |
| Putin is an Atheist, a hater of Christ. | Putin was baptized as a child, a regular church goer and has proven his faith on numerous occassions. |
| Russia supports Islamic terrorism. | Wrong. The Soviet Union supported socialist arab revolutionaries/terrorists like the Palistinian People's Liberation Front. Modern day Russia does not support these groups. Our allie Saudi Arabia is the number one backer of all major islamic groups. |
| Putin is a dictator | Putin was popularly elected with over 70% of the vote, a mandate. He functions within a constitution. True parlament is dominated by pro-Putin right wing parties, also elected freely. The various right parties received over 83% of the vote. |
| Putin hates Bush. | Putin has been Bush's loudest cheerleader, louder and in front of Sharon, Blair or Berlusconi |
| Putin is moving to grab power through selecting governors. | The governors still have to pass the local Oblast's parliment's review (that's province). Further, England, Italy and France all have the same systems. |
| Robert W. Lee another TapTheSource writers are credible. | Hardly, most like Mr. Lee, belong to the John Birch society, an organization steeped in conspiracy theories. |
| Yeltsin's declaration of open borders is a hollow one for Soviet citizens, who still cannot leave their country. Even travel outside the Soviet Union is heavily restricted, regardless of the Soviet republic | Typical propaganda leveled by TapTheSource or his articles. Anyone without a criminal warrent can leave at will, so long as the recieving nation will issue a Visa. |
| The Secret Soviets are still in charge and everything is part of their plan. | Lets take this lunacy to its full extent: The Soviets in their diabolic mysterious master plan allowed the Warsaw pact to collapse, the countries to open up and half of them to join NATO (I guess to corrupt NATO from within, regardless that it is those new NATO members that support America now and most of old NaTO that is against America, lets ignore that fact). They allowed the Soviet Union itself to fall apart, some of which is also now part of NATO. They allowed the military to degrade, trade secrets to be sold or stolen, Chinese immegrants to come in mass into southern Siberia. Most of their bases to shut down. The economy to dive and only grow again under Capitalism freer then America's. They further allowed the young to not even know who Lenin was, for islamics (who are all pawns of the Soviets, you see) to attack Russia on a daily basis. All this so that once America was the only apparent supper power, had its military in 120+ nations they could do what? Spring their surprise offensive? Materialize the great invasion army from outer space or outer Mongolia? Or marry enough American men to convert them (think body snatchers) into 5th Columnists and take over the US from inside? (of course that more people then ever voted Republican is also part of their master and evil plan). As a matter of fact, everything that happens that makes this theory look ludicrous for the past 15 years, well that's just part of the brilliance of their master plan. Oh and did we mention that they were obviously able to make Reagon, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr. into a bunch of idiots who could not see into their plan. So either this is all BS, or every American expert in the government and politician is an idiot and we as a nation are a bunch of idiots (except for the members of the John Birth Society, the only masters of the illuminate able to see this grand Jewish .. erg .. Russian conspiracy. |
| Russia is a dirt poor country. | Russia ranks, according to the CIA World FactBook GDP: purchasing power parity - $1.282 trillion (2003 est.), which places it just behind (now ahead) of Italy, the world's 7th largest economy. |
| Anna Politkovskaya is a reputable Russian journalist who is fighting Putin's facism. | Hardly. Anna Politkovskaya is an opportunist and a leftist. Having become a "political" refugee in the early 1990s, she now has FRENCH citizenship, writes for the socialist La Monde and the socialist Novaye Gazeta. She has staged several of her own "assassination" attempts to better her street credits while meeting constantly with Chechin and Al Quida terrorists and writing gushing love stories of them. Further, anyone who thinks that just because she hates Putin she is pro Bush, you couldn't be more wrong. She is in league with the devil incarnate, Soros, and hates Bush as much. A leftist is a leftist, but judge for yourself and read her views of Bush and the CONSERVATIVES of AMERICA. COWBOY FRIENDS (Praise for Moore) |
| Russia is a nation that only relies on oil. | A total lie, mostly spread by Wahhabi islamic Saudi Arabia and various NeoCons who favor US investment to Facist (and pro-Islamic) China. Read here about the state of the Russian economy that is now returning as a major industrial and IT power. Russia competes directly with India on IT and has had manufacturing climbing at an incredible rate. Financ e Ministry to work on debt payment schedule |
War is coming, Chinamarts of America are making sure of that.
NEP wasn't a deception, as radical and evil as Lenin was, he was mellowing out in his later years as reality of running an empire he helped ruin sunk in. Problem is, he lost a lot of support with NEP and after his first heart attack became figure head. Stalin, whom Lenin hated, was much more radical and evil then even that mummified spawn of Satan.
Better yet, are the special interests that own our government prepared to go to war over Taiwan and loose all those pretty factories they just built? If China closes those factories, then a lot of the American companies go out of business and there is mass lay offs in the US. Not only can we not simply switch on production but our machinery is now in China.
Your Eurasian Axis is a lunacy and does not explain then why Russia has actively armed all of China's neighbors. Squirm with that one.
If you believe China and Russia are "allies", granny, then explain why Russia arms all of China's neighbors and conducts military exercises with Japan, S.Korea, US and UK off of China's coast? Why Russia nixes China's desperately needed oil pipeline to send one to Japan. Lets make the theories form to reality not twirl reality to form to conspiratorial theories.
Russia arms India, Khazakstan, S.Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and offered on its own and through Washington to arm Taiwan.
Really? Seven? We sent almost our entire navy? And that wasn't in the news? Hmm, how did anyone miss that little trip?
It's more like 2-3 million Chinese, there really aren't that many place they are welcome, not amongst the Russians or the native population who remember that before the Cossaks came and settled peacefully with them, the Chinese in those border areas were forcing them to become Chinese.
As for Russia, China can get to the oil only two ways: through Vladivastok, around the coast and into Siberia (northern), or through Kazakstan and between the bordering mountains in southern Siberia and the Urals. To go straight is 2k km of forested mountains where almost all roads run E-W not N-S.
Does it specify in what capacity the defense is?
Subsahara Africa is solidly Christian and the conversion rates far surpress those of Islam. Ethiopia is officially Orthodox, Kenya and Cameroon are about to become. The catholic church gets a lot of its new priests from Africa too.
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