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CHINA WATCHES, WAITS: MASSIVE MILITARY BUILD-UP, MAJOR ESPIONAGE EFFORT
INA Today ^ | November 17, 2004 | By Toby Westerman

Posted on 11/17/2004 10:32:59 AM PST by TapTheSource

CHINA WATCHES, WAITS: MASSIVE MILITARY BUILD-UP, MAJOR ESPIONAGE EFFORT

November 17, 2004 By Toby Westerman Copyright 2004 International News Analysis Today www.inatoday.com

Despite assurances from just-resigned Secretary of State Collin Powell regarding U.S.-China relations, the second term of the administration of George W. Bush could encounter a major war in the Pacific, and is witnessing a major espionage offensive.

Communist China is demonstrating an increasingly high level of aggression and military intrusion against its neighbors, engaging in actions which could pull the United States into a naval war in the Pacific.

Taiwan faces invasion - possibly at any moment -- from China, at least one Chinese submarine has intruded into Japanese waters, and, most amazingly, Chinese intelligence services have been able to acquire a file of personal data on nearly every inhabitant on the island of Taiwan. Communist China's spy services have targeted and succeeded in obtaining files on military service records, vehicle and household registration, and national health data, according to the Taiwan news daily, the Taipei Times.

China claims Taiwan as a rebel province. The government on Taiwan, known formally as the Republic of China on Taiwan (ROC), fled to the island following its defeat at the hands of Communist forces on the mainland. Although the U.S. no longer has formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan, the U.S. remains committed to the island under the terms of the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act.

China's ability to compromise nearly every citizen of Taiwan, including the highest ranking military and governmental personnel, raises alarming questions concerning Beijing's espionage capabilities directed against other opponents, including the United States. Already in the mid and late 1990s, newspaper headlines reported the loss of important U.S. military and technology secrets to China. It is an open question as to how far Beijing has gone in the penetration and documentation of American society.

The mainland Communist government remains adamant in its determination to invade at the first declaration of Taiwan independence, and recent statements from Beijing declare that Taiwan is "playing with fire" as it presses for recognition as a separate nation.

Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian has vowed to seek a membership for Taiwan in the United Nations as an independent state, further enraging Beijing.

China is conducting an impressive modernization of its armed forces, which leads Pentagon observers to warn that Beijing could eventually rival U.S. forces in the Pacific. China is building an increasingly sophisticated military to successfully obstruct any U.S. attempt to aid Taiwan in case of Communist invasion.

China's military capabilities potentially not only threaten Taiwan, as China's disputes with its neighbors grow and as the nations in the Asia-Pacific region keep a wary eye on the increasingly powerful Red Dragon.

Japanese naval forces recently hunted a foreign submarine intruding into Japan's territorial waters. Indications from the sub's identifiable sounds and its course of sail pointed to Communist China as its nation of origin.

The incident occurred 75 miles south of a group of disputed islands, known as the Senkaku to the Japanese and Diaoyu to the Chinese, highlighting the contest between Japan and China for oil and gas resources believed to exist in the region.

Following two days of international crisis, China finally admitted that the "mystery" sub was theirs, and claimed a "technical error" for the intrusion.

The United States Navy is the only major force in the Pacific belonging to a democratic nation, and America remains committed to the defense of Taiwan, Japan and other allies in the region.

In 1958, the U.S. fought alongside Taiwanese forces in a deadly artillery conflict with China's Peoples Liberation Army, and in the following years sent naval forces on several occasions to deter a mainland attack on Taiwan.

As China's power grows, so too will the challenge to the U.S. presence in the region, and America's commitment to its allies.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; china; chinesemilitary; communistchina; japan; redchina; russia
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To: TapTheSource

Thank you, TTS, for the heads up on the link in post#88.
It's a must read for all of us.

Haiti - very ominous. Yet another paper trail back to our infamous Bill Clinton. I've always said Communism was only "playing dead", and now to establish a military base in Haiti! And Nicaraguan priests Marxist leanings...A deep probe into who owns the press in America, and the treasonous coverup of several lifetimes is long past due! Which US president gave up the Panama Canal? Was it Jimmah Cotta? And lastly, is GWB quietly allowing the egg of one world government to hatch, one crack at a time? Pray that he listens to the one Almighty God, for HE is in control. And may He look kindly on America in the days to come.


101 posted on 11/17/2004 12:30:01 PM PST by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: nikos1121
Let me ask you a question. So what if China invades Taiwan. I mean, what if we just turned our heads and said it is local affair between the same peoples but with differences politically?

Why? Because you don't turn your back on your friends in their time of need, that's why. The Taiwanese have been independent from mainland China for hundreds of years. Jimmy Carter stabbed Taiwan in the back when he broke diplomatic relations with the Taiwanese in the 70s and they despise him for it. (Well deserved, IMO)

A truism regarding human behavior: if no contraints are placed on behavior, the individual or group will continue to push the bounds of behavior until something forces them to stop. The Chinese are currently seeing how much they can get away with. So far, resistance has been from non-existence to light. Expect their hegemonistic practices to continue until somebody (like US) forces them to stop.

102 posted on 11/17/2004 12:30:09 PM PST by Cooltouch
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To: Brilliant
A lot of American companies are risking a lot of capital by investing in China.

If American (in name only) companies think our military is going rush to their aid and wage war with China to save their outsourced/offshored investments they have another thing coming. There will be riots all over America. I hope they lose their shirts.

103 posted on 11/17/2004 12:33:18 PM PST by WRhine
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To: asgardshill
Dear Taiwan, Hope you guys like Chinese food. Sincerely, Uncle Sam

Actually, they do like Chinese food.

104 posted on 11/17/2004 12:34:04 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://blog.c-pol.com?)
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To: spetznaz
We will never go into open war to defend Taiwan from China. The reason? Taiwan is just not 'important' enough to warrant sending thousands of US troops to fight a war with China that would have economical ramifications reverberating around the world!

I'm pretty sure this is the way Saddam felt about Kuwait.

105 posted on 11/17/2004 12:34:31 PM PST by Cooltouch
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To: MTOrlando

Chinese are gaining freedoms, slowly to be sure, but it is happening. The communist gov't may reach a tipping point where the demand for complete freedoms overwhelms them. If that happens, then China and Tawian can rejoin without war.


106 posted on 11/17/2004 12:35:14 PM PST by pissant
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To: JesseHousman
The tanks of the rulers will crush their bodies into toothpicks.

You bet. I just can't believe the gullibility of those who think the ruling communists are just going to step aside when they control and own every industry in China.

107 posted on 11/17/2004 12:41:28 PM PST by WRhine
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To: TapTheSource
Remember the slogan during the Reagan revolution: "No Aid or Trade with Communist Countries!!!"

Wasn't Reagan the one who abandoned the grain embargo against the USSR?
108 posted on 11/17/2004 12:42:00 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: JesseHousman
Bush didn't want the Taiwanese in the WOT with us in Iraq.

Had they jumped in, China would have invaded.

Capesh?

No, it don't Capesh.

Taiwan couldn't spare 2 or 3 hundred troops? If they are such a great ally, would that not be a symbol of allegiance with us?

Oh, please Joe.

The troops aren't ready to fight on another front just yet.

What are you talking about?

109 posted on 11/17/2004 12:43:15 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

If you don't know, it's too late to tell you.


110 posted on 11/17/2004 12:43:49 PM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman

Who are they fighting now?


111 posted on 11/17/2004 12:45:13 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
... they decided to give me a passing grade anyway...

And I'm taking it back!

I'm talking about our troops fighting the freaking arab beheaders! I am saying that this isn't the time to go to war with China. It is in our best interests now to keep a lid on the China-Taiwan matter. Their donating troops gives the Chinese Commies a reason to invade. They know we're busy anyway and besides they've enough capital stashed away due to selling stuffed teddy bears to stupid Americans that they're primed and ready.

112 posted on 11/17/2004 12:48:50 PM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman
Their donating troops gives the Chinese Commies a reason to invade

Bull sh*t.

113 posted on 11/17/2004 12:53:24 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Your honor, I'm through with this witness.


114 posted on 11/17/2004 12:55:12 PM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman
Let me get this straight, they are considered our good ally, yet they are told by President Bush not to put up 2 or 3 hundred troops to serve in Iraq as a show of alligence to us, because that will make China invade Taiwan?

Sure buddy.

115 posted on 11/17/2004 12:58:37 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

I like your tagline anyway Joe.


116 posted on 11/17/2004 12:59:50 PM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: TapTheSource

They will do no such thing, until 2008 when they host the Olympics. That way every Nation has 100's of people there, we would never attack with that situation.


117 posted on 11/17/2004 1:00:16 PM PST by maineman
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To: spetznaz

India would stay out of it for another reason: Pakistan. China and Pakistan have decent relations with each other, and it would only take a phone call from Beijing to Islamabad, accompanied by the promise of all of Kashmir and a healthy chunk of Islamic northern India to mobilize the Paki's against the Indians. India wouldn't stand a chance against a coordinated Pakistani/Chinese offensive. One or the other, maybe. But not both at once.


118 posted on 11/17/2004 1:04:55 PM PST by Arthalion
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To: Arthalion

This is has been a good discussion. And I infact have learned alot on the subject.

I agree that ten to twenty years from now based on how things are now, China may be too great a power to beat milatarily. They produce only 1 1/2 trillion, we produce 40 trillion.

We have to defend Taiwan, if nothing else but to thwart China's next move.

But the world is getting smaller, and everything we and they do affects us, even on a people to people scale.

nick


119 posted on 11/17/2004 1:08:31 PM PST by nikos1121
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