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To: Gone GF

"Uh....shouldn't that be: DR. Rice? (vs. "Condi" Rice?) -- Rush's sentiment...and mine too!"

Granted, it's not required that a PhD be addressed as "Doctor" in the academic environment, but that would seem to be more because the place is overrun with PhD's.

The point in this issue is rather that Ms. Dr. Condoleeza is entitled to her credentials, and her authority is enhanced globally by her having earned the PhD, from Stanford no less. (Could this be a reason her degree is being ignored?) I have heard endless references to "DOCTOR Henry Kissinger; in fact, I rarely hear him being addressed as "Mister".

A further point involves the left's childish and mean-spirited refusal to address the president of the United States as anything but "Bush", while Bill Clinton is infernally addressed and referred to as "President Clinton". Yes, a former president is entitled to that. But first and foremost, so is the sitting president.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but academia has lost so much of the public's respect that most people are really not interested in its pronouncements on protocol. Their motives are suspect and their conduct of late has besmirched a formerly revered segment of our American life.


128 posted on 11/17/2004 10:40:28 AM PST by steenkeenbadges
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To: steenkeenbadges

>>"Uh....shouldn't that be: DR. Rice? (vs. "Condi" Rice?) -- Rush's sentiment...and mine too!"<<

Only people like "Ricky" Holbrook call her "Condi" without having a personal closeness with her, like Bush does.

When "Ricky" Holbrook and other say it... it's meant as utter condescension.


136 posted on 11/17/2004 10:45:30 AM PST by soundandvision
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To: steenkeenbadges

"Not to put too fine a point on it, but academia has lost so much of the public's respect that most people are really not interested in its pronouncements on protocol."

Actually you missed the main point of my post. In academia, the "Dr." is in fact frequently used. Particularly if it's an academic poublication.

My point was that the media is not referring to her as Dr. Rice because the style book the media follows says you use "Dr." only for medical doctors. Kissinger might have been called "Dr." on some talk shows or in an op-ed situation, but not in news stories. As far as the media goes, she's being treated the same as anybody else -- titlewise, that is. Part of it is simple practicality -- if you use "Dr." with her name, then you need to ask every person you write about if they have a Ph.D.


159 posted on 11/17/2004 11:11:33 AM PST by Gone GF
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