Posted on 11/16/2004 6:32:51 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
Read this last night. Splendid overview. Thanks.
Actually, the title was a takeoff on Tom Clancy's novel. I'm surprised nobody picked up on that. Guess it's been too long since the Soviet Union had that enormous Red Army.
I suspected that book title was your inspiration. One of Clancy's best - and big enough to make into a decent-sized miniseries. Do you recall how the action began in that novel?
Well for Hispanic immigration, or any immigration for that matter, to benefit the GOP they would by definition have to win more immigrant votes than the Democrats do. Even if Bush did win 44% of the latino vote (assuming here that the naturalized Hispanic vote was similar to the overall Hispanic vote) , he still lost by 10 points among them.
And the big question is whether or not Bush's results are the harbinger of a real trend, or are they anonmaly? Will the GOP nominee in 2008 be able to maintain 40-45% of the latino vote against Hillary?
If the Republicans play their cards right (and with the Specter business, they are playing their cards very, very badly right now), in 2008 the Hispanic vote will split almost evenly for the Republicans and Democrats, and will trend Republican. The trick is to remember that Latinos are more Catholic than ethnic. Appeal to Catholics consistently and deliver on their issues, and you will get the Latin vote along with the rest of the Catholic vote.
I recall. Muslim terrorists.
I think that was my favorite Clancy book. There were so many places in Europe mentioned that I had actually been to myself. Clancy was able to explain the "plan" for war in Europe. I found that book to be enlightening and fascinating!
My point was that there are a significant number of liberals that are Republican in the Senate. It would be impossible to kill the filibuster, unless they "go nuclear" with Dick Cheney as describled below: (see full article why Cheney is important as President of the Senate)
Excerpt:
Their approach calls for employing a rarely used parliamentary tactic to overturn current Senate procedures.
Under the strategy envisioned by Senate Judiciary Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), among others, the Republicans would strip any Senate minority — currently the Democrats — of their ability to filibuster presidential nominees.
Approval by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (Tenn.), which is being sought, would all but assure that the plan would go forward.
Under the most likely scenario now under discussion, they would secure a ruling from the chair that Senate Rule XXII does not apply to executive submissions to the Senate — and that includes judicial nominees. Rule XXII provides for unlimited debate on all legislative issues that reach the floor unless three-fifths of the Senate calls a halt.
With such an approach, a favorable ruling from the chair on limiting the scope of Rule XXII could stand after only a simple majority approved it.
End excerpt.
Here is URL to full article:
Hatch group may go ‘nuclear’ on judges Plan would limit use of Rule XXII in Dem filibusters
The odds of it(that) happening... ZERO....
For obvious reasons but the discussion would be telling..
A real out'ing party..
You need 60 to invoke cloture on a particular debate. But if you wanted to eliminate the filibuster for judicial nominees altogether, you only need 50. 60 is just set by Senate rules, which can lawfully be changed at any time by a majority vote, parliamentary rules be damned. If the President sends over a nomination, and 50 Senators plus the VP caucus and approve, that meets the requirements of the Constitution. In essence, you just ignore the rules.
I hope you're right. But I must admit, I don't believe that Bush did as well with Hispanics this year as the exit polls indicate. I think he did better, but I think it was more along the lines of the former high-water mark of Republicans; Reagan's 37% in 1984.
I just hope their isn't something about Hillary that excites the latino community. If not, then I can see maybe getting about 40% in 08.
But again, I hope you're right about this and I'm wrong.
Let the blue go ...
As I heard one person state ... we can take all of our money and intellectual know how and be gone...
I wish I knew who said it because they forgot something ...
Red staes have all the food and need I say ... guns!
I wonder who will last longer? I can just see the VP of some company having to kill his food and live in a dwelling without all of the "finer things". Come to think of it, can you order sushi in Iowa?
Don't forget to pray for our brave men and women!
God Bless Our Troops and God Bless America!!!
The only thing I don't understand about the Red State/Blue State issue is why are the Republicans Red and the Dems blue, and not the other way round?
Red is the color of Communism, socialism and labor movements the world over and Blue is the color of Conservatism worldwide except here in America.
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