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Democrats, Republicans, What Would Jesus Say About Same-Sex Marriage?
Nov. 15, 2004 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 11/15/2004 6:38:13 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: muawiyah

Christ spoke and we have the Scriptures.

If one will not have Him as Savior, he will have Him as Judge.

"Whosoever shall fall upon that rock shall be broken but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder." (Lk. 20:18).

Don't take Christ's longsuffering for weakness. and don't think He chuckles at sodomy or any other sin.


41 posted on 11/15/2004 8:39:12 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American or you are a Liberal.)
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To: montag813

God cares.


42 posted on 11/15/2004 8:47:56 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American or you are a Liberal.)
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To: muawiyah
For the first 300 years Moslems devised the Sharia by asking "What would Mohammad do"?

FACT: Mohammad is a false prophet and allah is a false god.

PROOF: The wordwide hate and destruction at the direction of "allah". This is nothing but an idol worshipping cult whose sole aim is the death of anyone who does not convert and worldwide domination.

It can not be compared even rhetorically to Christianity.

43 posted on 11/15/2004 9:51:55 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Here's one more from Jude:

Jude 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, in like manner to these, committing fornication, and going away after other flesh, laid down an example before-times, undergoing vengeance of everlasting fire.

44 posted on 11/15/2004 10:01:06 PM PST by Waryone
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think Jesus would say something like this:

Mt 19:4
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

But of course the fact that He said it won't make people believe it.


45 posted on 11/15/2004 10:11:02 PM PST by samiam5
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To: muawiyah
The only correct way to deal with what Jesus might have said about any issue is to find where he actually did say something.

There is no "might have said" where Jesus is concerned. If you read the entire Bible, you will see that Jesus was present in the Old Testament and those words were His. Yes, His words that are highlighted in red are all about love, but so were His words from the beginning. It's all about the love for God.

God doesn't need us...we need Him.

46 posted on 11/15/2004 11:00:06 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I have no idea how you arrived at the idea that I believe Christians should ignore what the Bible says.

In fact, I explicitly said that Christians are better off speaking where the Bible speaks and remaining silent where the Bible is silent.

47 posted on 11/16/2004 3:59:32 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: AmericanVictory

Speaking where the Bible speaks certainly includes St. Paul. Why would I exclude him?


48 posted on 11/16/2004 4:00:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Elsie

2 Corinthians 5:17-20

17. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!
18. All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:
19. that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.
20. We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us.

We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God


49 posted on 11/16/2004 4:00:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Pete
And so?!

You've gone to the scriptures and discovered Jesus had already said something on the subject, albeit inferrentially, but clearly targeted.

That is not the same as sitting down and saying to yourself "Now, let me pretend to be Jesus (God) and come up with something Jesus might say or do concerning the issue."

50 posted on 11/16/2004 4:04:24 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

NO society has every permitted homosexual marriage, or even treated homosexuality as equally acceptable to heterosexuality. Men have always been expected to marry women and sire children. Some societies (such as the Muslims) condone homosexual activity, but never the homosexual lifestyle. In other words, homosexuality may be acceptable as a side dish, but never as the main course.


51 posted on 11/16/2004 4:07:34 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Indie
It's a monotheistic religion that draws heavily on Christian and Jewish teachings available in Arabia during the early part of the Dark Ages.

No doubt it's founders in Damascus and Yemen got it all wrong!

52 posted on 11/16/2004 4:15:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Siamese Princess

"No society"? The Classical Greeks certainly encouraged homosexuality. In fact, they felt heterosexuality should be reserved solely for procreation.


53 posted on 11/16/2004 4:18:15 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Thanks for posting.


54 posted on 11/16/2004 4:22:38 AM PST by mentor2k
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To: beckysueb
I agree the Scriptures are abundantly clear on this point. Homosexuality, no less than murder or envy or adultery, is a sin. Period.

But that pronunciation comes from Scripture, not any secular authority. And no state authority should be responsible for enforcing Scriptural law. So any retribution exacted against homosexuals must come in the form of Divine punishment, not anything meted out by mere mortals. We, alone, are unfit to judge.

55 posted on 11/16/2004 5:00:14 AM PST by IronJack (R)
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To: muawiyah
Actually, the Classical Greeks considered insertive anal intercourse an abomination. While they may have been less discouraging with other practices such as homosexual fellatio, they were adamantly against insertive anal intercourse between men.
56 posted on 11/16/2004 9:47:57 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: montag813

No, gay Americans apparently aren't "sick of it". They feel compelled to try an change well-established social norms which have existed thousands of years. Norms such as marriage between one man and one woman...all to satisfy theire need for acceptance....even if it mens forcing it upon the majority of Americans who are sick of their demands.

Gay demands...that is what Americans are sick of!

And they're sick of seeing their(gay people) need to force their lifestyle choice upon us all.

Just look at post #38 and the pictures. Most Americans are sick and tired of this!!!


57 posted on 11/16/2004 9:54:52 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Most Americans are sick and tired of this!!!

I was sick of this gay crap during the "Ellen" garbage, then the disgraceful TIME "Lesbians" cover, and it just got worse from there. I wish they would just keep their perversions to their own bedrooms and out of my family's face.

58 posted on 11/16/2004 9:57:10 AM PST by montag813
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To: muawiyah
"No society"? The Classical Greeks certainly encouraged homosexuality. In fact, they felt heterosexuality should be reserved solely for procreation.

It's been argued that what's interpreted as homosexual relationships would simply be very strong friendships. Either way, men were expected to marry women and father children. In Sparta, citizens had a duty to wed and have children.

59 posted on 11/16/2004 8:19:50 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Actually, the Classical Greeks considered insertive anal intercourse an abomination. While they may have been less discouraging with other practices such as homosexual fellatio, they were adamantly against insertive anal intercourse between men.

Men who were full-time homosexuals were despised as effeminate and the objects of mockery in ancient Greek plays.

60 posted on 11/16/2004 8:22:15 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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