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To: justshutupandtakeit
One of the major problems of the South was the degree of illiteracy compared to the North.

You sure like being wrong today, capitan. It was generally the case in the 1860's that rural frontier states had higher illiteracy rates than non-rural states (thus both Minnesota and Arkansas boast higher illiteracy among the white populations than do states in the east). Even then, the highest illiterate adult rates in any state were seldom more than 10% of the white population in 1860. The discrepancy was nothing even remotely near what you make it out to be with most states, north and south having illiteracy of adults between about 4-8% of the total white populations. Numerically speaking, the most populous northern states like NY had the highest number of illiterate adults.

Your list is of historical interest but proves nothing to contradict the higher degree of illiteracy and disdain for education which plagued the South.

You have yet to substantiate either of those claims beyond gratuitous slurs which have been proven wrong. It is a simple fact that in 1850 the south had (1) more colleges total, (2) a comparable number of pre-revolutionary colleges, and (3) an illiteracy rate among whites that was not substantially greater than that found in the north.

And you are aware that Virginia did not have the same degree of fanaticism regarding slavery and actually had an industrial base.

Irrelevant. It was a leading southern state and home of the confederate capitol. If you are going to make unsubstantiated blanket slurs against the south as a whole you cannot ignore one of its most prominent states when it turns out that state contradicts your slur.

131 posted on 11/19/2004 1:19:03 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: GOPcapitalist

Illiteracy rates of Native Born was higher in the South only by adding the immigrants (which was a trivial part of the South's population) can you beat down its rate to near equality to the North. Some Northern states had near 100% rates among its younger people while none of the South did.

I haven't particularly been concerned about the pre-Revolutionary comparision because the problems had not surfaced yet and most Southern leaders were trying to figure out how to end Slavery while those of a century later were pressing every nerve defending it and trying to assure its survival.

Virginia's wealth and cultural history gave it a lot of capital to expend and the nature of its slave system made it an exception in many cases.


143 posted on 11/19/2004 8:52:40 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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