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| Josh in PA
Posted on 11/15/2004 4:45:59 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: the invisib1e hand
I think you guys are way off,.
I think McCain is a bargain right now. I personally wouldn't vote for him in the primary, but I wouldn't be disgusted if he gets the nomination, like alot of people around here would be.
Guiliani and Schwarzenegger are not winning Iowa or South Carolina GOP primaries. I don't think they can win it.
To: OXENinFLA
It was a gut buster. I couldn't drink anything while watching the show or else it would wind up on the TV and floor from laughing.
My 2nd favorite favorite is the "winter episode" but then again, I'm cracked.
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posted on
11/15/2004 6:28:52 AM PST
by
jriemer
(We are a Republic not a Democracy)
To: the invisib1e hand
That being said.. I would vote for McCain before I would vote for Arnold or Rudy!!
To: Terpfen
The only Democrats left in elected office are the far-left ones from far-left states and districts. Ummmm, Evan Bayh, the popular two-term governor of Indiana and current Senator, is from an extremely conservative state. Indiana went overwhelmingly for Bush, has a Republican governor, Senate and House, and has 7 of its 9 members of Congress from the GOP. In fact. of the three incumbents defeated this year nationally (if you exclude the Texas gerrymander victories), one, Baron Hill, was a Democrat from Indiana.
Despite all of this, Bayh got 62% of the vote two weeks ago for another term. That means an incredible number of Hoosiers who voted for Bush also voted for Bayh.
He is a Henry Jackson type Democrat in a very Red state.
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posted on
11/15/2004 6:38:00 AM PST
by
Zebra
To: Josh in PA
The absence of Breseden, Warner and Easley from the Democratic listings makes no sense. At least one of them will get in, and probably two. Particularly perplexing when the list includes Dodd, Biden and Lieberman, none of whom is likely to get in, or last past January '08 if they do.
Barak Obama is far too smart to run before his time, and 2008 won't be it. Hillary Clinton is as smart as Obama, but, unlike Barak, 2008 is the now-or-never time for her. (Sort of the way that 2004 was for Kerry). The real question is whether the Democratic electorate will confuse personal ambition for electability the way they did with Kerry.
To: Josh in PA
That being said.. I would vote for McCain before I would vote for Arnold or Rudy!! traders have a saying: "that's what makes a market."
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posted on
11/15/2004 6:45:44 AM PST
by
the invisib1e hand
(if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
To: Zebra
Evan Bayh is not a politician of consequence. He most definitely isn't going to win a Democrat presidential nomination, and he's not proof of a moderate takeover in the Democrat party.
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posted on
11/15/2004 6:47:25 AM PST
by
Terpfen
(Anyone who worried about the election: crack a smile. We won.)
To: Josh in PA
Tim Pawlenty-R-Gov. Minnesota. Good VP at Minimum. He can smell national office already.
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posted on
11/15/2004 6:49:30 AM PST
by
Finalapproach29er
(You can drive from coast to coast and never pass through a single county won by Kerry.)
To: gridlock
Main reason he won more votes than any other...with the exception of GWB...is that the left was running an "anybody but Bush" campaign!! They would have voted for Hussein just to get President Bush out!
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posted on
11/15/2004 7:57:49 AM PST
by
trussell
(Unemployed intellectual...will act like a pompous ass for food!!)
To: Finalapproach29er
Tim Pawlenty-R-Gov. Minnesota. Good VP at Minimum. He can smell national office already.I like him too. He needs to win re-election in 2006 first.
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posted on
11/15/2004 8:00:57 AM PST
by
NeoCaveman
("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Are you on Owen's payroll? If not, he should hire you. I read somewhere that he said he was not going to run. If he runs, I think he has the best chance of getting nominated.
The best person the Republicans could nominate though, is Con. Ron Paul. He is the only real conservative Republican at the national level. Please run Ron!
Question for all, if the Republicans were dumb enough to nominate a lib like Rudy, would some of you guys finally surgically remove yourself from the hip of the GOP and bolt? Or would you hold your nose and vote for Rudy? Rudy will not win though because he can not win Iowa or the Southern Primaries. There is a mischievous part of me that hopes he wins. Maybe some conservatives would finally wake up and see what a fraud the GOP has become.
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posted on
11/15/2004 9:56:00 AM PST
by
Red Phillips
(your friendly, neighborhood, ideological gadfly)
To: ambrose; COEXERJ145; cajungirl
FYI - get your bets in now ;)
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posted on
11/15/2004 9:57:09 AM PST
by
flashbunny
(Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
To: Josh in PA
There is one FOR SURE bet. It is AGAINST
Arnold Schwarzenegger. He can not be president.
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posted on
11/15/2004 10:27:44 AM PST
by
John D
To: Josh in PA
McCain would be very dangerous to our nation's security. He is much too hot head to control our nuclear weapons.
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posted on
11/15/2004 10:31:56 AM PST
by
John D
To: Josh in PA
But what record is Gore going to run on? He used to be a vice president that lost? What is on his resume lately except giving ranting shrieking speeches? Same thing with John Edwards. His resume says he is an out of work trail lawyer who also would have lost his senate seat had he not tried and failed to become vp?
To: TNCMAXQ
I am from MS and voted for Haley but come on have you heard the man talk? Good grief....he is a lobbyist first and foremost. He isn't exactly setting the state on fire down here!
To: katiebelle
Agree..
People betting on Edwards are nuts IMO.. I might get in there and short him. There's noway he gets the nomination.
Gore is known, he's out there screeching, he has a better shot than Edwards.
To: Josh in PA
John McCain --- 21.8 / About 4.6 to 1 (Bet $1, win $4.60)About 3.6 to 1 (etal).
To: steveegg
Some commentary on the other side:
John McCain --- 21.8 (far too senatorial; certain loser)
Rudy Guiliani --- 17.8 (nice appeal, but can he win primaries in the South with his "personal" life?)
Bill Owens --- 12.6 (excellent choice, Governor of Colorado)
Bill Frist --- 12.1 (again a Senator, no chance; try a governor or senior administration official)
Mitt Romney --- 10.1 (too Northeastern to win primary)
Jeb Bush --- 8.0 (nepotism concerns; doesn't want it?; unlikely)
George Allen --- 5.5 (senator but former governor...a dark horse at best)
Colin Powell --- 4.7 (out. resigned; wife won't let him)
Tom Ridge --- 3.5 (blue-state appeal. but is he visible enough? possible.)
Chuck Hagel --- 2.2 (dismiss. Senator)
Condeleeza Rice --- 2.2 (easy counter to the Hildabeast, and Sec of State position, if she gets it...)
A.Schwarzenegger --- 1.6 (no. unconstitutional.)
Tommy Thompson --- 1.4 (another dark horse. maybe, but is he visible enough?)
George Pataki --- 1.3 (far too liberal for red staters)
Dick Cheney --- 0.6 (vastly underestimated, but I doubt it unless Bush dies in office)
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:10:43 AM PST
by
dufekin
(Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
To: dufekin
Oh yeah, mysteriously missing but likely candidate: South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford. Possible other candidates: wildly popular red- and slightly-blue-state governors.
Also missing: Donald Rumsfeld, Porter Goss, Tommy Franks, Elaine Chao, Gen. Abazaid, Gen. Sanchez, new Bush war cabinet.
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posted on
11/15/2004 11:15:32 AM PST
by
dufekin
(Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
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