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1 posted on 11/14/2004 4:58:38 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
"People that are going to do violence in the workplace ... it doesn't make any difference how many laws that you have on the books. They have no respect for the law and they're going to do it anyway," Ellis told FOX News.

Bears repeating.

2 posted on 11/14/2004 5:02:40 PM PST by Wneighbor
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To: LouAvul
It looks like this issue is being presented as workplace safety vs. gun owner's rights. This misses the most important aspect of this law.

The focus should be on property rights. In my opinion, if I own a parking lot, I should be able to determine what things are allowed on that lot and which things are prohibited. I am against state-imposed gun control, but if someone doesn't want firearms on THEIR property, they should be allowed to make that decision. No one is forcing anyone to work for am anti-gun private employer.

3 posted on 11/14/2004 5:04:21 PM PST by timm22
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Great now the criminals just found them self some more easy targets for robbery, rape and mayhem.


4 posted on 11/14/2004 5:09:16 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: LouAvul
State Rep. Jerry Ellis (search), a Democrat, believes that keeping guns off employer property won't prevent workplace violence.

Wow.. a Democrat that "gets it". Worth noting.

Some companies are saying that they have the right to restrict people from having guns in their cars that are *not* parked on company property.

5 posted on 11/14/2004 5:13:46 PM PST by marktwain
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To: LouAvul

And how upset would they be if, as I pulled in the gate, I handed the guard my weapon and asked for a claim-check?

What do the expect, people to toss it out the window before pulling in off the street?

This is NOT frivolous.

I lived a mile up a dirt logging road, 7 miles from the nearest hamlet, and 25 miles from the hospital in town where I worked. There was always a pistol, and often also a rifle, in the car...I had CCW and a hunting license, and often went shooting, hunting, or fishing after getting off work at 7 AM. A lot of the nurses and techs lived in the boonies, too, and darn sure did not drive to work at 11 pm unarmed, especially not after one was run off the road & raped one night.

What is kept in a locked vehicle is not the employer's business, nor anyone elses, as long as it isn't creating a public nuisance or public hazard.


6 posted on 11/14/2004 5:17:24 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: LouAvul
This would rally make it bad for shift workers, especially women.

To have to get off at eleven or three in the morning or go in for that matter and have to drive an hour or so to get to work or home with no protection in case of a break down .

Lots of times these jobs are in the worst part of town around docks and warehouses or you have to go through them to get there.

Then if you are single when you get home in the middle of the night and have to go inside your house where someone could be waiting between you and your gun.

It's awful easy for stalker to pattern someone who works regular.

This really stupid.

8 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:10 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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If a potentially violent employee knows that that many of his co-workers are armed and willing to stop him dead in his tracks...he very may well rethink his murderous plans and not go postal at Whirpool

The police (or perhaps just the police chief) agree with Whirl Pool's anti gun anti second amendment stand..

imo


13 posted on 11/14/2004 5:41:00 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: LouAvul
Who dreams up this stuff. It's totally FUBAR. Some of these jerks should read American history (well, probably they can't read anyway) and remember how this country was founded and settled. We've got 18 year old kids fighting for freedom on this planet, and some jack-ass has a problem with an American on our soil with a weapon. Give me a break. PATHETIC thinking. /rant

Now, where's my Sig? (just kidding).

18 posted on 11/14/2004 6:06:41 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: LouAvul

One of the best things governments do is control the actions of businesses. That is to say, prevent their being as nasty as they want to be.


23 posted on 11/14/2004 6:23:01 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.)
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"This is a standard company rule...

I'd hate to have Oklahoma State law or the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution get in the way of Whirlpool Corp's standard company rules!

33 posted on 11/14/2004 7:09:57 PM PST by RJL
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To: LouAvul

Try taking a gun to work at PSO. (Public Service Co of Oklahoma).
The parent company AEP (American Electric Power) absolutly forbids guns and knives.


45 posted on 11/14/2004 8:51:01 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Varus, give me back my legions!)
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To: LouAvul

Oddly enough, I'm going out this afternoon to look for a washer. Whirlpool just fell off the map.


67 posted on 11/17/2004 3:39:15 AM PST by bad company (Four more years.)
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