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Radical Islam Appears to Be Spreading
ap ^ | 11-14-04 | BRIAN MURPHY

Posted on 11/14/2004 12:26:17 PM PST by No Blue States

ATHENS, Greece - The same day Dutch mourners gathered outside a crematorium for a final goodbye to slain filmmaker Theo Van Gogh, police on the other side of the world made a horrific discovery in a hut: the decapitated body of a Thai laborer.

The two events - in settings as different as tidy and prosperous Holland and a tropical rubber plantation in southern Thailand - bear similarities that suggest new flash points in the global struggle against radical Islam.

A note impaled on Van Gogh's body by the alleged Muslim killer threatened further attacks against Dutch politicians in the name of Islam. The body of the 60-year-old Buddhist worker in Thailand also was found last week with a message: "More will be killed" in revenge for the deaths of 85 Muslim protesters last month in a region with a mounting Islamic insurgency.

"The fault lines are growing," said Fawaz Gerges, a professor of Middle Eastern and International Affairs at Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville, N.Y. "It's not just between the Muslims and non-Muslims. It's also within Islam itself. It's a battle between moderate Muslims and extremist forces that threaten to hijack Islam."

The most recent hot spots zigzag around the atlas - from Liberia in West Africa to the Netherlands to Southeast Asia. They join a growing roster of places already feeling the strains of religious conflict and terrorism along the edges of the Islamic world - regions as diverse as Chechnya, Nigeria, Spain, Central Asia and the Philippines. Even China is worried about separatist sentiment in its vast and mostly Muslim western province of Xinjiang.

"The militant voices on the street are gaining credibility in more and more places," said Gerges. "That's a worrisome trend."

Part of the reason, many Islamic experts say, can be traced to global communications that forge common points of reference such as al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden's defiance or the guerrilla attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq. But even more powerful rallying cries come from firebrand imams and opinion-shapers: that Islam is under threat and it's the duty of followers to take a stand.

In Amsterdam, a moderate imam, Abdel Eillah, feared the scales were tipping in a troubling direction among Muslim immigrants in Europe who fail to adapt.

"When I hear young men praise violence in the name of Islam, I fear for my faith and I fear for the world. We must fight it before it's too late," he said after the Nov. 2 slaying of Van Gogh, whose work included harsh commentary against traditional Islam. "I didn't like what Van Gogh said, but he should not pay with blood."

Dutch police moved sharply against suspected Islamic radicals following the murder. Last Wednesday, special forces stormed a house in The Hague following a 15-hour armed standoff. The two suspects captured - among more than a dozen detained since the Van Gogh slaying - are under investigation for possible links to terrorist cells accused of plots in Morocco and elsewhere.

New laws were proposed to give Dutch authorities greater powers to hold and investigate suspected terrorists.

"Extremism is reaching the roots of our democracy," the Netherlands' prime minister, Jan Peter Balkenende, said last week in Parliament.

Or as former U.S. ambassador Richard Parker terms it: "The common language of Islamic militancy is growing louder."

"This is not something that happened overnight. It's a feeling of injustice among Muslims that goes back decades," said Parker, who served as a diplomat in Lebanon, Algeria and Morocco. "But now it's become much more legitimate to say that violence and 'holy war' is the proper way."

The Van Gogh killing and backlash has captured headlines. But the bloodshed in southern Thailand could mark a resurgence of a long-simmering Muslim insurgency and, some officials fear, fertile ground for Islamic terrorists.

Thailand's Muslim minority has complained for decades about economic and social discrimination by Buddhist authorities. Violence subsided in the 1990s after government concessions for greater funds and Muslim political representation. But the calm began to erode in recent years.

In April, more than 100 Islamic militiamen were killed in raids on security posts. On Oct. 25, at least 85 Muslims died when security forces dispersed a demonstration outside a police station. Most of the victims suffocated or were crushed after being packed into army trucks.

More than 500 people have been killed this year in three southern Thai provinces, including attacks targeting Buddhists in possible bids to drive out non-Muslims. On Friday, suspected Islamic insurgents gunned down a non-Muslim boxing instructor.

Authorities are investigating possible links between separatist groups and Islamic terrorist organizations such as Jemaah Islamiyah, which seeks a pan-Islamic state in Southeast Asia. It's blamed for attacks including the 2002 bombing in Bali that claimed 202 lives.

Hambali, accused of being Jemaah Islamiyah's operations chief and bin Laden's alleged point man in Asia, was arrested in Thailand last year and it's unclear how much the group has rebounded.

Thitinan Pongsudhirak, an assistant professor of international relations at Bangkok's Chulalongkorn University, believes the strong retaliation from authorities "can only galvanize the Muslim insurgency in the south."

"We have not yet seen escalation," he said. "But I still think we may be headed from bad to worse."

He speculated that the attacks could move out of the south to hit Thailand's vital tourism industry.

"The gruesome fashion of these (beheadings) by presumably Muslim assailants ... is not normal violence," said Pongsudhirak. "It is driven by deep animosity and hatred."

In West Africa, a rare outbreak of Christian-Muslim violence in Liberia last month stunned authorities and drew comparisons to nearby Nigeria, where more than 10,000 have been killed in sectarian clashes since 1999.

At least 16 people were killed and more than 200 others injured in Liberia's capital, Monrovia, where five churches and two mosques were set ablaze. U.N. troops stepped in to restore order.

"We are seeing more tears in the fabric between Muslims and non-Muslims," said Mohammad Khalil, who researches Islam and modern society at the Middle East Institute in Washington. "In too many minds, violence has replaced dialogue; calls for separation have replaced efforts at coexistence. These are not good signs."


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To: Hank Rearden

I dont think they will stop either. 2.0.


81 posted on 11/14/2004 3:12:50 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Siamese Princess
The taking of the American hostages in 1979 was the first blow struck in the revived war between Islam and the West. It's a war that may last for centuries.

Well, I've always realized that November 4th, 1979 was the start of World War III (or World War IV for you Neal Boortz listeners) in which we are in now. I do think the opening shots were fired when the Israeli Wrestling team was murdered by PLO terrorists at the Munich Olympics in 1972 so some say it could have started then. The early phase was masked by the Cold War where at least the Coviets did maintain some sort of a leash on their Arab clients but since the end of the Cold War, there is no limits so we have seen 9-11. Unfortunatly, the liberal left has become the "useful idiots" Lenin and Stalin spoke of in which the Islamo-Fascists would sell them the rope to hang themselves with once they served their purpose of making the Western World weak.
82 posted on 11/14/2004 3:19:14 PM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: nuclady
Thank you for the tip. The world today sounds alot like the prophesies of Revelation imo.

Thank God Bush is in office, and we will FIGHT!

I 2nd that!

83 posted on 11/14/2004 3:19:52 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States

It's a battle between moderate Muslims and extremist forces that threaten to hijack Islam."

Islamists have been trying to propogate this lie for a long time.

Three years ago moderate Muslims said that they did not have to denounce the 9/11 attacks because they had no ties to radical Islam...."

Three years ago, civilian, American citizens said they did not have to wage war on muslim terrorists because they had no ties to the military.

"Meanwhile the radical clerics and mosques have continued to recruit and murder in the name of Mohammed."

Meanwhile, U.S. Armed Forces recruiters have continued to enlist men and women in the name of freedom.

1% of muslims are extremists.
Sounds to me like the army of Islam.

What percentage of the U.S. is in the service?
What percentage of any country is in their armies?

In any country that has ever been invaded, a percentage of the citizenry would try to distance themselves from the war.

Islam might not be a sovreign country, but Islam has an army .
If, at any time, it looked like America would fall, I gaurantee you would see many of the "moderate" muslims get involved.


84 posted on 11/14/2004 3:53:15 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: No Blue States
"Radical Islam Appears To Be Spreading"

...it's guts all over the walls, thanks to the few leaders like George Bush who have the integrity and courage to stand up to murderous bullies like the islamists.

85 posted on 11/14/2004 4:14:06 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: Uncle Vlad

Uhhh, Bush is the 'red' state.


86 posted on 11/14/2004 4:30:52 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: philetus

And you would see the Middle East go up in a mushroom cloud. If we go...we're taking them with us.


87 posted on 11/14/2004 4:37:01 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: weenie

The problem is that (for History of the U.S.), it takes something major to wake up the public. I think that the major thing that wakes up the U.S, has not happened yet!
Then we (the U.S.) is in the MAJOR fight for the Western Civ! I wish that both sides could live in peace, but it seems that, fate or destiny has spoken!


88 posted on 11/14/2004 4:38:07 PM PST by ktw (kakkate koi)
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To: ktw
I think that the major thing that wakes up the U.S, has not happened yet!

I used to work a few blocks away from the World Trade Center...

For a lot of us that was major enough.

89 posted on 11/14/2004 4:52:12 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: ktw
"Both sides" is an incorrect term. It is all sides against Islam because Islam is striking out against "everyone else".

There are 34 conflicts going on the world right now (some are civil wars). How many involve muslims? Even muslims against muslims? How many involve the US?

Muslim radicals don't get along with Buddhists, Christians, Jews, Hindus...

Again, they must show signs of tolerance to other faiths before their political ideology that is sold as a quasi-religion deserves equal access consideration.

Was Nazism a religion? Is secular humanist socialism a religion?
90 posted on 11/14/2004 6:48:48 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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