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I'm all for cleaning out Clintonoids from the CIA and elsewhere.

It is possible however that Goss and his people are too heavy-handed and are unnecessarily antagonizing some of the good people.

1 posted on 11/14/2004 7:41:52 AM PST by aculeus
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Pincus needs his sources.


2 posted on 11/14/2004 7:42:47 AM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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Seems as though Goss is approaching this in exactly the right way.


3 posted on 11/14/2004 7:44:03 AM PST by x1stcav
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And this is a perfect example of the leaky CIA..One wrote a book for heavens sake.


4 posted on 11/14/2004 7:44:38 AM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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Goss won't be isolating himself when he brings in loyal people to the CIA.
5 posted on 11/14/2004 7:44:48 AM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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A new broom sweeps clean.

We only have four years.

I only hope they move as fast on the tax problem.


6 posted on 11/14/2004 7:45:40 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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BTW, will Goss be the new Dim bogeyman for the next four years now that Ashcroft is leaving?


7 posted on 11/14/2004 7:46:15 AM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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So if Goss purges all the senior personnel, from where will he obtain experienced replacements?


8 posted on 11/14/2004 7:46:24 AM PST by IStillBelieve (G.W. Bush '04: Biggest popular-vote victory in history, and first popular-vote majority in 16 years!)
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We should look at those soldiers that are serving right now and pick the cream of the crop and ask them to join the CIA. And have it influxed with new blood.


9 posted on 11/14/2004 7:47:03 AM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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The fact that these guys would leak this suggests why Goss doesn't trust them.

Memo to Disgruntled Staff: Taking Your issues with the boss to the Washington Post is unlikely to get you extra booze in the Christmas egg nog.

PPS: Those of you CIA guys who are "old timers" need to accept how much your mindset prevented the US from being prepared for the "new times"


11 posted on 11/14/2004 7:48:21 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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Goss has to clear out the hornet's nest, but the press will paint him as the bad guy regardless. The WaPo has many friends and sources that will be ejected from the agency, and they are pissed about it.


12 posted on 11/14/2004 7:50:13 AM PST by inkling
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Well Pincus was the reporter that started the "Joe Wilson-Bush Lied" cornerstone, so I'm not going to believe ANYTHING that he reports.

Besides, he's a liberal ass-wipe. And I think we have enough of that.

13 posted on 11/14/2004 7:50:41 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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PORTER GOSS MUST BE DOING EXACTLY WHAT'S NEEDED AT CIA.

HOW DO WE KNOW THIS?

BECAUSE THE MSM IS SCREAMING MAD ABOUT IT.

14 posted on 11/14/2004 7:52:20 AM PST by montag813
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Way to go Goss!

Cut off the head and the tail stops wagging (to the NYT and WaPo).


15 posted on 11/14/2004 7:53:04 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (The Measure of a Man is the Willingness to Accept Responsibility for Consequences of his Acts.)
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No. Goss is no idiot. Just the fact that these "senior CIA officials" have leaked this info to the WP says a lot about them.

Can them all, Porter. The CIA needs a significant cleaning out.


16 posted on 11/14/2004 7:53:06 AM PST by Endeavor
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It is a recurring myth that what Goss is doing is getting rid of Clinton people. Anyone who came on board during the Clinton era would not have enough seniority to be a significan player in the CIA. Presidents appoint the DCI who then brings in a few of his own outsiders. These outsiders invariably leave when the DCI leaves. The people Goss is most likely going after are people he is familiar with from his days on the House Intelligence Committee. The CIA needs a dramatic reorganization and Goss is most likely going after anyone he thinks is not going to support the changes. Furthermore, many staffers in the CIA were openly critical of Bush after the Iraq invasion and while everyone is entitled to their opinion, they have no right to air their complaints outside of proper channels.


19 posted on 11/14/2004 7:54:11 AM PST by Casloy
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This is a Pincus article--he sees dire consequences in anything the Bush admin does. Maybe Goss is simply taking out the garbage.


22 posted on 11/14/2004 7:56:08 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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Fear New Chief Is Isolating Himself

He's just taking out the trash. Running scumbag liberals from positions requiring a security clearance is never popular. If they're so upset about being out of a job, give them jobs cleaning toilets and mopping floors in non-secure areas.

23 posted on 11/14/2004 7:57:06 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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I hope he boots "Annonymous" out on his sorry ass.


26 posted on 11/14/2004 7:57:57 AM PST by dc-zoo
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The good people are probably very happy that the deadwood
is going.


27 posted on 11/14/2004 7:58:26 AM PST by Two-Bits (God Bless America and those that love her)
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Within the past month, four former deputy directors of operations have tried to offer CIA Director Porter J. Goss advice

This opening sentence says a lot.
WHY have these "four former deputy directors of operations" come forward to "offer Goss advice" apparently before Goss even asked for their advice? I am suspicious of their motives right from the start and I guess Goss is, too.

30 posted on 11/14/2004 8:05:04 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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