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To: Grannyx4

I have only one objection to the idea of predestination: it eliminates totally the need for a Savior and makes the death of Christ a cruel joke. If certain people are "programmed" to believe and therefore receive salvation, God would have not needed to send His Son here for "us men and our salvation."


120 posted on 11/13/2004 9:16:26 PM PST by milagro
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To: milagro

I'm sorry, I took those words out of the Bible (Romans, chapter 8). I didn't think up predestination. The Lord said it. I'm only about a 3 point Calvinist myself...I don't claim to understand everyting about how God does things. I agree, we all need Jesus to save us, however, I don't think Paul was making that stuff up. I was also trying to mock the whole idea that there is a gene responsible for all our 'bad' behaivor; do you remember when it came out that there was a gene that predisposed one to alcoholism? Or how about the one for stealing? Those have all been 'found' in the last 30 years by some supposed expert in DNA. If you didn't understand my comments as mocking, then I obvioulsy failed at the joke.


158 posted on 11/14/2004 6:24:40 AM PST by Vor Lady
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