Posted on 11/13/2004 6:26:15 PM PST by CHARLITE
I remember engberg. He was one of the biggest lying RATs at SeeBS, and a real, genuine, arrogant POS. He is not missed.
"Old Media is a buggy whip manufacturer surrounded by the blogosphere."
LOL.....this is the perfect metaphor!
I agree with you.....no need to dig into this guy's personal life. What's the point? The article tells all we need to know about him. A CBS liberal who can't handle the fact that they are no longer considered credible. That isn't the fault of bloggers. That is their fault.
I am enjoying just watching the MSM hang themselves with their "blathering".
That reminds me, did Rather ever call the election for Bush yet?
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No. He is still waiting for the NYT to leak the results to him.
CBS & MSM are trying to defend a monopoly on dissemination and interpretation of information. They claim to hold some privileged, 'professional" position as tellers of truth...their contention is utter horsesh*t, as we all understand.
CBS will never help sell ANYTHING to my household; advertisers, spend your marketing bucks elsewhere.
I suspect the Dem's at NBC fed the bad poll numbers to Wonkette and Powerline; not sure who fed them to Drudge -- Wonkette and Drudge went with them and the rest (as they say) is history... so IMO since it was the networks and MSM who commissioned the exit polling (aka cBS and NYSlimes) I'd say the fact it got out to the bloggers isn't the blogger fault --but the MSM fault for not keeping their mouths shut -- or as I suspect purposely setting up the bloggosphere as payback for Rathergate...
Cool so now we are Knights.
Pajama Knights?
Knights of the fuuuuuuuuutuuuure?
American Knights?
I agree .. and as some blog pointed out .. no sooner had the election conspiracy blogs shown up on the internet, when the rest of the bloggers started tearing everything apart, and ended up debunking all the conspiracies.
And they say we don't have editors .. Hah!
By the way... I suspect there is a LOT MORE Hillary in Arkancide than Bill... she's the real "brains" of the outfit.
Hmmm isn't Mary Mapes and Danny boy still there? Is it time for another letter-writing campaign?
Hey, Dinosaur Media--you're over. You spent the last of your waning credibility trying to get Kerry elected. America is on to you, and it didn't work. We are watching you, but not the way you would like to think. We are faster, brighter, smarter, and we have more eyes, ears, and resources than you can possibly imagine. Enjoy your final descent into the tar pits.
The guy from powerline was doubtful of Wonkett's numbers. He was there with her when she was posting them. Powerline did not post them. Kerryites fed them to her and she ran with them.
I know and I think it was all done on purpose to trash bloggers in general... Wonkette is a little bit of a camera hound and thought she was going to break some news (IMO)... I understand she is still in denial that she was being used.
The internet has become the TRUE marketplace of ideas. Something the Universites have UTTERLY abdicated and abandoned for thought police enforcing leftist only thoughts allowed on campus.
We are the future because we are the true form of the 1st amendment. THE PEOPLE speaking, expressing, and EXAMINING idea put forth by fellow citizens. This is the first amendment in action.
CBS is just a 527 without the paperwork.
Well .. while I agree there are several of the deaths connected with the Clintons that probably should have raised more than just a few eyebrows.
Trying to connect the Clintons to these deaths without documented evidence makes it mostly a KOOK theory. This is the kind of stuff the left uses against us. It's undocumented; contains only speculation and it's not sound information.
I think even using the death of Vince Foster is a very big mistake. There is no documented evidence Hillary was involved. Do I believe she was related to it somehow .. YES! Is there proof to substantiate that theory .. NO!
There are plenty of evidentiary things we can use against Hillary without having to resort to KOOK theories.
Journalism, like many other specialized fields of the past, is being subsumed by the generic ability of information (data) processing that doesn't distinguish journalism from individual perception, nor professional from amateur. The defenders of the old status quo and hierarchies want you to buy into their premises and assumptions that journalism is what journalists do, science is what scientists do, teaching is what teachers do, etc, when the new paradigm is that with today's technology and tools, one can do whatever one wants to do, and the limits are his own competence and integrity -- that have to be earned in every undertaking and challenge. No longer can these people just run around demanding, "Do you know who I am?!!" -- as though people will accept their presumptuousness and haughtiness as signs of their presumptive status.
Now if you think people ought to listen to you, you'd better have something worthwhile to say and if one doesn't, that will be apparent. No longer does imputed status and achievements get one by. All of us are recreating and defining ourselves as we are perceiving reality unfold -- and in turn impacting the reality we are observing.
That is the major point which the old worldview being promulgated by the narrow specialists fighting to protect their exclusive turfs will not acquiesce to -- the modern notion that the observer and the observed are inextricably linked. There is no objective reality being observed by disinterested and impartial observers (journalists); a large part of what is observed is what the observer brings to the event. And in this way, the imperative to know oneself is not just metaphysically desirable but is the depth of understanding absent in the mainstream reporting but included in some Internet writing -- because it is not being edited, censored and suppressed. Bigotry is not only out there; it is obviously also in the eye of the beholder, as is beauty and every other quality we observe.
In the communication of information, the richer understanding is that the understanding evolves; if it does not, then it merely confirms our thinking and prejudices, and thus has no growth value. Obviously what is happening on the Internet and the collective consciousness which is the summation of all things, rapid growth and evolution is taking place. Past learning can categorize and generalize; it is not prepared to simply move along communicating dynamic change -- as it is happening, with no well-recognized experts.
It's very troubling for the old world order and the old world mind to deal with; thus, all they know is to protect and defend the status quo.
I agree!!
Exactly... and the strawman they are trying to put up is to claim that the bloggers' role is to be journalists.
Noel Sheppard's critique of that is right on the money -- we shouldn't let the MSM try to back bloggers and other critics into a direct comparison, since we don't have the resources to be journalists. We are merely the fact check that they SHOULD be doing, the unofficial ombudsmen that they SHOULD have on staff.
Don't like the truth coming out so fast, hum?
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