U.S. and U.N. Renew Quarrel Over Iraq

The New York Times ^ | Published: November 14, 2004 | WARREN HOGE

[kcar]

We follow US law, derived from the US Constitution, sanctified by the blood of patriots and approved by the consent of the governed. There is NOTHING higher on this planet.

[JonDavid]

Russia, China, France, Germany & the rest of the EU.

[26lemoncharlie]

The UN and the Socialist members of the UN are in league with the Arab states to isolate this country. There need for the isolation of the US is to bring us to our economical knees. Why -- to accept the Socialist view course. Most important of which is the destruction of Isreal.

If the US is economically hamstrung they will be able to use the bait and stick method to bring us into line with Socialism and their view of the new world order.

Look at Holland, France and Germany. All three of these economies are in the tank NOW. There socialist programs are driving them into crushing debt. They need bailed out again!

Their ties with the Arabs is another way of guranteeing their success. Oil for Food, Neuclear assistance for Iran. All in the name of security and peace for the world. On the back side is the cooperation between the EU and the Arabs for the Destruction of Isreal. To do this they know that the US has strong ties to Isreal, so the US must be weakened or go down.

The EU is falling apart in their endeavor, Holland is having problems with Muslims and Believe it or not, Patriotic Ducthman !! God Bless them, who want to throw the Arabs Out! Which is exactly what they should do.

The have even been labeled Racist because they want the immigration of the muslims stopped and the deportation of those in the country. This all came ablout because of the Murder of Van Gogh, when he critized the Muslim religion.

The EU has forgot it's history. 48 christians were beheaded in Spain in 850 by Muslims for the same thing.

[JonDavid]

These countries would pass anti-US resolutions. That's what the French want.

[Wonderama]

Officials in Mr. Annan's office say they fear a return to the mood of the 1980's when the United States, the organization's single biggest donor, reacted to Congressional displeasure with the United Nations by withholding payments.

I like this idea. I am not thrilled with taxpayer money going to the UN which is basically our enemy.

[Ken H]

In a perfect world, I would agree. However, our enemies would love us to leave the UN because then we would loose our veto. I could see the EU gaining the use of our veto. You then would heve the 6 prement members of the UN passing world wide resoultions against the US. We must stay in the UN.

Well, we just can't have the UN passing resolutions against us, can we? It might hurt our feelings!

Excuse my sarcastic tone, but I don't give a rat's ass.

[NoClones]

A new organization dedicated to actual, responsible nations called the UNOE or United Nations of Earth.

The present cesspool of money-grubbing foriegners should be kicked out of the USA, renamed 'ucgte' or united crooks, grafters, thugs of earth!

[elizabetty]

I just cannot wait until one of these obstructionist countries asks us for help. I hope "W" takes them to the woodshed before he does what Americans always do -- send help.

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I agree 100%.

[Ken H]

1. Throw the U.N. out of the USA....and sell the building.

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2. The League of Nations died...the UN should be dead too.

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3. Never support the UN again..ever..under any circumstance.

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You want a solution to the UN...there it is.

Works for me.

[wvobiwan]

Absolutely. A UN without the US is irrelevant anyway, all modesty aside. It's just a fact, sorry.

Besides I'm sure many nations that value freedom and democracy as does the US would jump ship with us and form the beginings of a new world organization, one with a bit higher standards and responsiveness.

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The earth didn't stop rotating when the League of Nations came to an end. And it won't when the U.N. comes to an end.

[HooBoy]

Words bereft of action are meaningless. See: Sudan, Balkans, Rwanda, Cambodia, etc, etc, etc.

Socialist Old Europe is collapsing. Staying in the UN only prolongs the inevitable.

[Ken H]

Besides I'm sure many nations that value freedom and democracy as does the US would jump ship with us and form the beginings of a new world organization, one with a bit higher standards and responsiveness.

Yes sir. I'll take Britain, Australia, Poland, Japan, Taiwan, Israel, and the Dutch over the rabble at the UN any day.

[Twinkie]

Also Germany, and before Beslan, Russia - - the U.S. is
and has been expected to foot a large portion of the UN
bill haven't we? That seems to be about the only input
they like, while leaving them alone to do big corrupt
money deals amongst themselves.

[JasonC]

Zero funding for the UN, now. Move it to Paris.

[lepton]

"Most Americans don't really take into account the rule-of-law aspects of international behavior,"

Sure we do. Hussein's government signed a cease-fire which committed him to doing certain things, or he would be removed. The U.N. demanded that Hussein comply or face consequences. He did neither, so the "authorized" hostilities commenced.

[finnigan2]

A three step solution to the UN problem:
1) Give Coffee Can a date of December 15 to throw all UN resources into the Iraq January election immediately, or face consequences.
2) Failure to comply with (1) means withdrawal of US funding to the UN indefinitely.
3) Further obstruction on the part of the UN to US peacekeeping efforts in the middle east will result in a request for the UN to move their HQ out of the US, with a 2008 deadline for compliance.

[Major_Risktaker]

The have even been labeled Racist because they want the immigration of the muslims stopped and the deportation of those in the country.

Who has label the Dutch racist?

[kcar]

We need a League of Free Nations. Invite China (e.g., Taiwan), Britian, Poland, Italy, Australia, India, Japan, select others that pass a minimum threshold test of democracy and freedom. Evict the UN and give the League that building. Do it before Annan's term expires so he he can retire in shame and humiliation.