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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: EternalVigilance
The rock-solid core of the Grand Old Party is constituted of committed pro-lifers. They just won a victory of historic proportions.

No matter how many times you post it, it's not true; evangelicals/pro-lifers voted in the same numbers they did in 2000, period. If you don't like those figures, take it up with Pew Research and Michael Barone.

Excuse us if we don't take kindly to a bunch of RINOs attempting to rob us of the fruit of that victory:

You're not going to have any more say in what goes on for the next four years than any of the rest of the groups, all of whom voted 5 to 7 percent more than they did in 2000, in what the agenda will be for the next four years; bullying other groups in the GOP certainly isn't going to endear you to the rest of us.

The advancement of a return to a culture that respects innocent human life.

Again, abortion was NOT on the list of things people said they voted about this year.

821 posted on 11/13/2004 8:49:57 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Spiff

Thanks Spiff!


822 posted on 11/13/2004 8:50:38 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Howlin

No one asked me nor most everyone I know...not a single one of us would've gone to the polls, let alone lift a finger for Bush, were he pro-life...Bush would've lost the election in the Red States before the polls closed on the east coast.


823 posted on 11/13/2004 8:52:57 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Howlin
No one asked me nor most everyone I know...not a single one of us would've gone to the polls, let alone lift a finger for Bush, were he not perceived to be pro-life...Bush would've lost the election in the Red States before the polls closed on the east coast. And he's always known that, trust me...
824 posted on 11/13/2004 8:53:46 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: EternalVigilance
In our day, it always comes back to the pro-life litmus test.

Every issue is NOT contigent on abortion.

I hope honest-minded pro-life FReepers will note the direct connection between those who have reviled Dr. Keyes and those who suddenly want to throw the rest of the pro-lifers over the side.

There you are, back to giving Keyes god-like characteristics.

And once again you accuse those who don't agree with you about Alan Keyes of being dishonest.

825 posted on 11/13/2004 8:53:46 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Vicomte13
The key change this time was the CATHOLIC vote.

Absolutely not true; Bush had increased in votes across every single demographic group. You simply cannot claim it for one group or another.

826 posted on 11/13/2004 8:54:53 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Post #823

827 posted on 11/13/2004 8:55:05 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Saying that we deserve to be destroyed (As some have said) is why many people who would support the pro-life movement think we're all a bunch of nuts.

Amen.

828 posted on 11/13/2004 8:55:42 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Most everyone I know voted on military/War on Terror issues.


829 posted on 11/13/2004 8:56:52 PM PST by Amelia (Didn't watch the movie, but I did read The Book.)
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Just poking my nose into the food fight.


830 posted on 11/13/2004 8:57:16 PM PST by asgardshill (Bad Liberal - No Kool Aid)
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To: Howlin

One could interpret the question to mean that it is wrong to take the life of some humans for the benefit of others.

It *is* wrong to take the life of some for the benefit of others.


People are not simply a collection of useful parts or interchangeable units to be disposed in a utilitarian manner.

It does not matter whether the one killed is unborn or a Chinese political prisoner with the right tissue type. It does not matter whether the one benefited is someone's sister or a Chinese politician. The act of infringing the rights of one human for others who have more power - of what ever type - endangers the rights of all.


831 posted on 11/13/2004 8:57:50 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Amelia

Would they had there not been a man running who seemingly desires to reverse the American Holocaust of Babies?


832 posted on 11/13/2004 9:00:06 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: cpforlife.org

Your wing is just as dangerous to the Republican Party as the Michael Moore wing is to the Dems. You live in your own reality. it is not the reality of this Country. Like I said, start your own party and see how many people feel the same way you do. But that doesn't really matter to people like you. One issue people scare me more than any other type of activist. Obsession is a dangerous thing, no matter how righteous you think it is.


833 posted on 11/13/2004 9:01:54 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: hocndoc

I watched the organ-harvesting of prisoners in Communist red china...surgeons (butchers) at the ready, bodies prepped, a cap to the base of the brain 'execution' style and off the organs go...what a world! /s


834 posted on 11/13/2004 9:02:40 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: ApesForEvolution
not a single one of us would've gone to the polls, let alone lift a finger for Bush, were he pro-life...

Nobody is arguing that; pro-life is the basis of our party; this year, it was NOT the main reason people went to the polls.

(What happened to your post to me.....it looks REALLY weird.)

835 posted on 11/13/2004 9:02:57 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Prove it.


836 posted on 11/13/2004 9:03:08 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: Hildy
"Like I said, start your own party and see how many people feel the same way you do."

Keyes, Illinois.

837 posted on 11/13/2004 9:03:14 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: ApesForEvolution

Most of the people I know are in the military, or have family members who are in the military or retired from the military. The war is a prime issue for them. I don't recall abortion being mentioned as an issue, other than John Kerry's disobedience with his church's position.


838 posted on 11/13/2004 9:04:25 PM PST by Amelia (Didn't watch the movie, but I did read The Book.)
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To: hocndoc

Do not insult my intelligence; I am perfectly capable of reading AND comprehending the English language.

Anybody with a brain knew that narses meant that my sister just should have died.


839 posted on 11/13/2004 9:04:41 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Wasn't there a post about only 6% of Bush voters said abortion was the main reason they voted for him? I may be wrong, but I think you pointed me or made a comment about it on this thread? Do you have any idea what I'm talking about?


840 posted on 11/13/2004 9:05:15 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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