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To: Hoplite
I'm not lining up behind the man, his politics make me nauseous.  I will say though, following that trail, time and again the accusations of his being behind ethnic cleansing (or in most cases ethnic cleansing taking place at all) have fallen apart.
 
My take on it is that Penny Marshall and her friends made that JUDGMENT movie, which was wholesale propaganda, and much of the west bought into it.  Now, just like the "Jenin massacre" when it becomes time to pull out the evidence and count the bodies, it looks a whole lot less horrific than we'd originally been led to believe.
 
Even Christiana Amanpour (sp) that CNN propagandist, wasn't able to produce much to incriminate the Serbs or Milo.  Kind of makes me wonder.
 
Until I actually see evidence, I'm not convinced.  Oh, the guy was likely a kleptocratic fascist, but that's not what the world court is trying him for.
Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

5 posted on 11/12/2004 12:12:50 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (John Ashcroft for Supreme Court!)
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To: Owl_Eagle
I will say though, following that trail, time and again the accusations of his being behind ethnic cleansing (or in most cases ethnic cleansing taking place at all) have fallen apart.

WTF are you talking about? What trial are you following? It can't possibly be Slobo's ICTY trial.

You're clue bag appears to be devoid of any contents, Owl - Penny Marshall didn't make the "Judgement" video, that's merely a recapitulation of the garbage Living Marxism chose to print.

Why is it garbage, you ask? Because at the libel trial over the issue, Living Marxism's editor and the author of the article recanted, abjectly and completely, vindicating the original news broadcasts (which Marshall was responsible for, and which you are confusing with "Judgement").

You'll be able to play the "until I see the evidence" card for as long as you keep your eyes closed, Owl, but in doing so you are only playing the fool.

6 posted on 11/12/2004 12:25:07 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Owl_Eagle; Hoplite
Owl, you are right on the substance of the issue concerning the "Judgment" movie, although, as Hoplite points out, "Judgment" was a refutation of the concentration camp story, not in support of it.

The movie, as well as LM's original article 'The picture that fooled the world' show conclusively that the supposed "prisoners", including the emaciated Fikret Alic, were not encircled by the fence separating them from the journalists but were on the outer side of the fence and they were not in any way physically confined. Fikret Alic was not starved by the Serbs but had tuberculososis as a cause of his emaciation.

It is clear from the article and the movie that Penny Marshall's and ITN's reporting was utterly dishonest and maliciously misleading. Unfortunately, LM's Mick Hume did not really fight ITN's "libel" suit and lost on technicalities of this absurd law, which has no equivalent in the US. He was outspent by ITN and presumably bribed or threatened as well because he understandably did not want to lose his position as a columnist for the London Times and be an outcast from the mainstream press. The fact remains that, as you wrote, the Trnopolje "concentration camp" story was a "wholesale propaganda", as is much of what much of the liberal and mainstream press has written about the Balkans.

8 posted on 11/14/2004 9:09:12 AM PST by pythagorean
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