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CENTRALIZED OHIO Recount Updates

Posted on 11/12/2004 10:38:24 AM PST by montereyp1

Dirty Harry's blog "Stranded On Blue Islands" is going to be all over every aspect of the burgeoning Ohio recount. From the liberal loons to the media coverage.(Same thing really,)

Please boomark for updates and send tips and news. We'll have it all in one place.

Should be fun beating these RATS again in Ohio.

Here's the web address: http://mytwocommoncents.blogspot.com/


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To: montereyp1

And that's why Ohio will have a cleaner count than Florida. In Florida, you had every county using different standards. In Ohio, it's one standard. And, there's no way that all 88,000 spoiled ballots will be valid.


21 posted on 11/12/2004 11:07:39 AM PST by TexasAg1996
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To: montereyp1

Spoiled ballots ARE counted before the vote is certified. Then the recount begins if the greens and libs get the money together. CW says they will.

SoreLOSERMAN all over again.


22 posted on 11/12/2004 11:08:51 AM PST by montereyp1
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To: Tallguy

The Green Party candidate says that he will request a recount. However, he can't officially request a recount until all the provisionals and absentees have been counted and a winner has been certified.

It should be amusing. While Kerry isn't making this request, look for negative blowback on the Democrats if this actually occurs.


23 posted on 11/12/2004 11:08:51 AM PST by ambrose
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To: montereyp1

The math is on our side. It's all the other BS I'm worried about. : http://mytwocommoncents.blogspot.com/2004/11/ohio-undercurrents.html

Or another computer glitch.


24 posted on 11/12/2004 11:09:54 AM PST by montereyp1
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To: montereyp1

Count them. It will show who was committing fraud.


25 posted on 11/12/2004 11:11:17 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: montereyp1

What the kool-aid drinkers miss is that a certain percentage of people intentionally leave their ballots blank, yet they are already counting those 96k spoiled ballots as all being votes for Kerry. They're delusional.


26 posted on 11/12/2004 11:11:36 AM PST by ambrose
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To: montereyp1

Computer Glitches are caught in the official canvassing. I'm not sure about OH, but in CA, they do a 1% hand count sampling during the canvassing process.


27 posted on 11/12/2004 11:12:47 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Kerry's got to be behind this.


28 posted on 11/12/2004 11:12:47 AM PST by montereyp1
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To: ambrose
However, he can't officially request a recount until all the provisionals and absentees have been counted and a winner has been certified.

I thought they couldn't request a recount unless the totals were within .25%.

29 posted on 11/12/2004 11:13:30 AM PST by KJacob (I seem to have lost my tagline.)
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To: KJacob

.25% is automatic recount. They can *request* a recount if they agree to pay for it.

Ohio law refers to an application by the losing candidate. The law does not state whether the state must grant the application.


30 posted on 11/12/2004 11:15:10 AM PST by ambrose
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To: montereyp1

I read that late on election night the two campaigns quietly agreed to count 20,000 random provisional ballots. The idea was that if Kerry was winning 70 or 80 percent of them, then he had a justification for not giving up right away. It turned out the majority of the 20,000 ballots broke for Bush and that was what prompted Kerry to concede the next morning. The count was unofficial, but a good indication that the numbers just weren't there.


31 posted on 11/12/2004 11:16:50 AM PST by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: Hank All-American

I meant to say, that was what prompted Kerry to decide the next morning to concede.


32 posted on 11/12/2004 11:17:39 AM PST by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: ambrose
The law does not state whether the state must grant the application.

So if Bush maintains a lead of 100,000 plus after provisionals are counted, the State could simply deny the request for a recount? I have to think if the numbers are that large then they will not bother.

33 posted on 11/12/2004 11:17:46 AM PST by KJacob (I seem to have lost my tagline.)
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To: Hank All-American

Link??


34 posted on 11/12/2004 11:18:25 AM PST by TexasAg1996
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To: Hank All-American

Is that true or just a myth? I seems logical but can you count 20,000 that quickly?


35 posted on 11/12/2004 11:19:13 AM PST by KJacob (I seem to have lost my tagline.)
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To: Hank All-American
I read that late on election night the two campaigns quietly agreed to count 20,000 random provisional ballots. The idea was that if Kerry was winning 70 or 80 percent of them, then he had a justification for not giving up right away. It turned out the majority of the 20,000 ballots broke for Bush and that was what prompted Kerry to concede the next morning. The count was unofficial, but a good indication that the numbers just weren't there.

Provisional ballots are kept in sealed envelopes, and I believe today is the first day they are legally allowed to open them.

The provisionals are spread all throughout the state, not just in the Cleveland area. While it is tempting to think that only DIMwit types don't know where to vote, historical evidence shows that provisional ballots pretty much follow election day voting patterns.

36 posted on 11/12/2004 11:21:05 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

exactly. If someone voted 80% rat, 20% rep on all issues but left the president choice blank, giving it to kerry is manufacturing votes. Methinks they did this with bows on in Florida and it is illegal. A decision not to vote for pres while voting rat down the line sounds mostly like someone who could not stomach the thought of voting for JFng but liked his local rats.


37 posted on 11/12/2004 11:21:05 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: KJacob; TexasAg1996

Gee, you guys demand a source? What happened to good old-fashioned rumor and innuendo?

Okay, I searched my recollection and found it archived on polipundit:

http://polipundit.com/index.php?m=200411

I don't know if it is true or not, but it makes sense. And I think an unnofficial count could occur that quickly. Give twenty people a thousand ballots each and have them tick off Bush or Kerry on a counter.


38 posted on 11/12/2004 11:26:05 AM PST by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: Hank All-American

you may have been thinking of this article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1269974/posts


39 posted on 11/12/2004 11:32:45 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Perhaps the account was false. Or maybe election officials allowed for a sampling to be opened and counted under strict supervision (which would explain why nobody's talking about it, since it may have been extra-legal).

Hey, I didn't make this story up. I merely circulated it without regard to its veracity in a shameless display of rumor-mongering.


40 posted on 11/12/2004 11:33:03 AM PST by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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