Posted on 11/11/2004 10:27:54 AM PST by knighthawk
GRONINGEN, Nov 10: The Dutch EU presidency said on Wednesday that Europe risked becoming a breeding ground for Islamic extremism and that the problem had to be dealt with urgently.
"In all of Europe, young people are becoming more radical," Dutch Justice Minister Rita Verdonk told an EU conference on immigration and integration being held in this northern Dutch city.
"In the Netherlands we were able to see what happens with radicalisation," said Verdonk, who has taken a tough line on immigration since joining the conservative Dutch government.
As she spoke, Dutch police in The Hague made two arrests during a siege of a building where suspected extremists had been hiding. Earlier, three police officers were wounded by a hand grenade.
The Netherlands has been shaken by a number of serious incidents since controversial film director Theo van Gogh was murdered a week ago by a suspected Islamic radical.
Three mosques were targeted by arsonists and two by vandals over the weekend, and two Islamic schools have also been attacked.
"We must ask ourselves if we (the Netherlands) have not been naive over the past few years, and if for too long we have taken in just any one," said Verdonk.
She said the man suspected of killing van Gogh, who is in police custody, "was driven by the same dark forces which were behind the attacks on New York and Madrid," a reference to the September 11 attacks and the Spanish train bombings.
"Europe must not become a breeding ground for Islamic terrorism," she said. But she added: "We will not allow the Muslim community to be excluded and accused ... and that we enter into a spiral of fear and hate."
Speaking at the opening of the two-day conference, which is being held under tight security, Verdonk said the time for debating was short.
"We have to roll up our sleeves. Time is pressing. There are problems, we must face them," she said.
The head of the European Commission division on justice freedom and security, Jonathan Faull, said there was no place for "murder and terrorism" in a democratic society.
"Whatever the precise borderline between integration and assimilation, the law should be respected," he said.
How many months and years and DECADES have we been telling the left that they're being naive? Not just about islam but about EVERYTHING! These rose-colored glass scenarios of theirs are naive and DANGEROUS to the point of idiocy!
"Damn. Are the US and Britain going to have to conquer Europe, again?"
BS The Brits and Italians that want to can just come over and live with us. The rest of "Old Europe" can find it's actualization in Islam.
I lived in Europe for 28 years. And yeah, looks like the US always have to run solve their problems. This time they don't even want the help. But the fact is that the war on terrorism is going to benefit them even more than it is going to benefit us. And they will never admit that.
I understand. Sometimes I think too that it's not worth fighting for.
History doesn't really repeat itself does it? From yesterday thru tomorrow, the struggle between GOOD & Evil just keeps flowing downriver.
Thanks for sharing your experiences - glad you are home safe.
Vele bedanken.
Where did you live?
(Why don't we see similar wake-up calls in the rest of the EU? Note France's cowering fawning in Arafat's death, keeping the Islamists (temporarily) off their back?)
France is actually the most aggressive at keeping the islamists on a short leash. They have for a long time infiltrated every mosque to find out what's going on. They have deported imams who have been in France all their life! The whole issue with the headscarf being declared illegal is part of the struggle of assimilating muslims in French culture. It's actually an important battle as muslims use the headscarf and burka to keep control over their women by preventing their assimilation into the host country's culture.
The French government has powerful powers that makes the Patriot Act look extremely weak.
She is suicidal. Europe is a breeding ground for Islamic terrorism because it's become a breeding ground for Muslims.
Why do I get the sick feeling that another generation of American is going to have to rescue Europe from itself...
...again.
they breed like fruit flies. (also have many similar characteristics, such as, living in filth and stinking up our air with their unwashed, unwiped a**es.)
One good thing, Holland would likely pay for military help and we have lots of boys overseas gaining good experience with eradicating radical islam.
Because the Dutch have always been the smartest Europeans. They had the first genuinely capitalist economy on the continent, which in turn created the freest society and the best artists. What we're seeing now is a great nation rediscovering its roots- I hope the same thing happens soon in Canada.
In all parts of Spain; in the north (near the Pyrennees); in the center (near Madrid); in the south (Andalusia, the most awful part of Spain) and finally in Barcelona (10 years there).
"Europe must not become a breeding ground for Islamic terrorism," she said. But she added: "We will not allow the Muslim community to be excluded and accused ...
Not only is it a classic oxymoron, it epitomises precisely the mindset of the vast majority of Europeans today. (and for those who don’t know, I’m a Brit).
In plain, old-fashioned English it translates as “ We know Islam wants us dead or subjugated but, provided we don’t take that threat too seriously, and especially if we don’t do anything to resist you then - being really good guys at heart – you’ll just let it all slide”
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
But please, don’t lump all Europeans in the one bag, guys ( especially the Brits and Eastern Europe). Some of us have to live with this crap every day – and a few, only a few of us, are going to die fighting it !
Thank you! Finally someone sees what is going in France with the headscarves. Too many conservatives see it as a "freedom of religion" issue. It is NOT. You see something that many conservatives don't want to - that radical Islam keeps its hold over a population through its women.
They wouldn't, if the girls and women forced into Islamic "marriages" had some way out. They practically have to go into the equivalent of a witness's protection program if they try to get out of the religion and the forced marriage. Dutch MP Hirsi Ali was in that very situation, which is why she has a price on her head.
They also had a bitter and brutal 80-year long struggle against Spanish occupation and domination, and they *won.* (That would have been England's fate as well, had it not been for the Battle of the Armada going in England's favor.) But right now it seems like the Dutch are their own worst enemy.
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