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CA: Fight brews over redistricting
Sac Bee ^ | 11/11/04 | Margaret Talev

Posted on 11/11/2004 6:27:32 AM PST by NormsRevenge

A chamber of commerce official who served on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's transition team and is legal counsel to the governor's wife is launching a campaign to take redistricting powers away from the Democratic-controlled Legislature. George Kieffer, chairman of the board of directors for the Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce, said the change could reduce polarization, improve California's business climate and better serve mainstream voters.

He said he will ask his board when it meets today to adopt a resolution supporting the idea. That could lay the groundwork for a ballot initiative campaign in 2006 - or earlier, if Schwarzenegger calls a special election to put before voters any of a variety of changes he is considering to the structure of state government and operations of the Legislature.

Kieffer said he also will ask his board today to formally support doing away with legislative term limits.

That idea is unpopular with voters and is one the governor has not discussed, but it is likely to draw support from the same Democratic incumbents who oppose the redistricting shift.

Lawmakers currently are elected from districts put in place in 2001 in a plan signed by former Democratic Gov. Gray Davis. Those new maps resulted from an agreement between the Democrats in the Legislature who controlled the once-a-decade redistricting process and Republican leaders, one that largely preserved the partisan status quo.

Schwarzenegger for weeks has floated the idea of a midcensus redistricting to be done by a nonpartisan panel of retired judges.

--snip--

In a news conference Nov. 3, Schwarzenegger told reporters, "I think we have to do a redistricting. I think this is a very, very important thing that we have to make part of our reforms.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: brews; calgov2002; california; electionushouse; fairdistricts; fight; redistricting
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1 posted on 11/11/2004 6:27:32 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I think all states should have an Iowa style nonpartisan redistricting. I don't support mid-census redistricting, though. The constitutionality of that is still pending with the Supreme Court, by the way.


2 posted on 11/11/2004 6:33:16 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Amerigomag
George Kieffer, chairman of the board of directors for the Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce, said the change could reduce polarization, improve California's business climate and better serve mainstream voters.

Ted Costa already has such an effort underway. So who is this guy to set up his own, "parallel" effort?

Source

George David Kieffer is Government & Regulatory Partner at Manatt, Phelps & Phillips, LLP.
Member of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's Transition Committee.
Member, Board of Directors of the California Chamber of Commerce; Chair, Education Committee.
Member, Museum Council, Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles.
Chair, Mayor’s Los Angeles Economic Impact Task Force.
Chair, City of Los Angeles Charter Reform Commission.
Member, Board of Directors of the New Los Angeles Automotive Training Corporation.
Member, Board of Directors, and Executive Committee of the Central City Association of Los Angeles.
Former Member and Vice Chair, Board of Directors, Los Angeles Urban League.
Former Member, Board of Directors, Constitutional Rights Foundation.
Former Member and President, Board of Governors of the California Community Colleges.
Former Trustee and Chairman of the University of California at Santa Barbara Foundation.
Former Member, Board of Regents, University of California.
Former Member, Blue Ribbon Commission for the Review of the Master Plan for Higher Education of California.
Co-author, “Empower Voters, Not Parties,” The Riverside Press-Enterprise, Oct. 23, 2004.
Contributing Author, Governing Public Colleges & Universities, Jossey-Bass, c. 1993.
Author, “The Strategy of Meetings,” published by Simon & Schuster (hardback) and by Warner Books (paperback) 1988. The book has been published in five languages.
Named by California Law Business (published by the Los Angeles Daily Journal and San Francisco Daily Journal) as one of the Top 100 Most Influential Lawyers in California for the year 2000.
Recipient, Social Responsibility Award, Los Angeles Urban League, October 1999.

Looks like a Dickie Riordan plant and "consensus" manipulator.

Soooo, why would some buddy of Arnold launch a parallel effort unless it was to water down what Costa was doing, ala workman's comp reform?

RINO alert.

3 posted on 11/11/2004 6:55:26 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I oppose doing away with term limits. I would rather have no redistricting than have Democratic leaders have a lifetime grip on legislative leadership positions.


4 posted on 11/11/2004 7:03:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Carry_Okie; farmfriend; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag; kellynla; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ..
The Governor's "people" are working at cross purposes with the Conservative grass roots in CA. Tearing down term limits that gave Willie Brown a death grip and choke hold on the CA Assembly speakership is truly a prize that special interests deeply covet!!!

It comes under the heading of "stability" for lobbyists for every special interest group imaginable and concentrates inordinate power in Sacramento to facilitate corruption!!!

They know that just like the Recall that Costa helped get started, that they must supercede that effort with Arnold's media dominating celebrity, so that the special interests that Arnold now represents, instead of Gray Davis, wrest control from Costa and the riff-raff of Conservatism's grass roots.

Same song... Second verse... A little bit louder... And a whole lot worse!!! You can't ride in my "red" wagon... The wheel is broke and the axel's saggin... Same song... Third verse... (and so on, and so on!!!)

5 posted on 11/11/2004 7:34:02 AM PST by SierraWasp (Dems are stuck with Dubya! Congress won't impeach and they're scared spitless of Cheney!!!)
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"Tearing down term limits that gave Willie Brown a death grip"

Whoops! That should read... "Tearing down term limits that REMOVED Willie Brown's death grip"

6 posted on 11/11/2004 7:39:46 AM PST by SierraWasp (Dems are stuck with Dubya! Congress won't impeach and they're scared spitless of Cheney!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; All
Author, “The Strategy of Meetings,” published by Simon & Schuster (hardback) and by Warner Books (paperback) 1988. The book has been published in five languages.

Has anyone read this book and what kind of mind control does it advocate?

7 posted on 11/11/2004 7:50:37 AM PST by tubebender (If I had know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: SierraWasp
Schwarzenegger for weeks has floated the idea of a midcensus redistricting to be done by a nonpartisan panel of retired judges.

'Nonpartisan judges'? Now THERE'S an oxymoron!

8 posted on 11/11/2004 8:12:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: tubebender
Has anyone read this book and what kind of mind control does it advocate?

It's still in print and there's one rave review at Amazon. I was unable to find a detailed review.

9 posted on 11/11/2004 8:23:16 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...

Personal list.


10 posted on 11/11/2004 8:27:18 AM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!!


11 posted on 11/11/2004 9:03:33 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: NormsRevenge

I question you can ever take politics out of redistricting. In the end, people do the choosing of districts and they always have political views and agendas.


12 posted on 11/11/2004 9:29:31 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: Carry_Okie
Arnold seems to spell his name "Keiffer" (on his website and as announced when he put Kieffer on the Transition Team).

California Bar Association Records:

George David Kieffer 
CA Bar Number:         57492 
Current Status:        Active 
CA Admission Date:     December 20, 1973 
District:              District 7 
County:                Los Angeles 
Address:               Manatt, Phelps Et Al
                       11355 W. Olympic Blvd
                       Los Angeles, CA 90064 
Phone Number:         (310)312-4146 
Undergraduate School:  Univ of California Santa Barbara; CA 
Law School:            UCLA SOL; Los Angeles CA 

Note: Manatt Phelps founder, Charles Manatt, former chairman of the DNC.
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13 posted on 11/11/2004 12:03:01 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Note: Manatt Phelps founder, Charles Manatt, former chairman of the DNC.

Shocks the hell out of me.

14 posted on 11/11/2004 12:06:39 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: All
 
 

Contributor

Occupation

Date

Amount

Recipient

KIEFFER, GEORGE

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS LLP/ATTORN

9/7/01

$1,250

Manatt, Phelps & Phillips

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS LLP/ATTORN

4/30/02

$1,250

Manatt, Phelps & Phillips

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS/ATTORNEY

3/31/03

$500

Gephardt, Richard A

LOS ANGELES,CA 90049

KIEFFER, GEORGE

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS LLP

5/30/03

$500

Feinstein, Dianne

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS LLP/ATTORN

8/31/04

$1,800

Manatt, Phelps & Phillips

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS LLP

5/3/00

$1,116

Manatt, Phelps & Phillips

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS/ATTORNEY

9/10/04

$1,000

Lewis, Jerry

LOS ANGELES,CA 90049

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS

4/28/99

$912

Manatt, Phelps & Phillips

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS

6/27/03

$1,000

Shelby, Richard C

LOS ANGELES,CA 90049

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

MARCK AND COMPANY

4/29/04

$1,000

Boxer, Barbara

LOS ANGELES,CA 90049

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS LLP

12/31/01

$500

Bowles, Erskine B

LOS ANGELES,CA 90049

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID MR

MANATT PHELPS/ATTORNEY

2/22/00

$1,000

Gore, Al

LOS ANGELES,CA 90049

KIEFFER, GEORGE

MANATT PHELPS

6/28/96

$500

Torricelli, Robert G

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS

4/22/97

$1,401

Manatt, Phelps et al

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS

4/24/98

$1,053

Manatt, Phelps et al

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS ET AL

7/2/96

$500

Harman, Jane

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

MANATT PHELPS

1/19/96

$250

Wyden, Ron

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS

10/28/96

$250

Democratic Central Cmte of California

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE

MANATT, PHELPS

2/22/94

$250

Mahoney, Richard Doyle

LA,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS & PHILLIPS

5/27/93

$1,015

Manatt, Phelps et al

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

KANATT, PHELPS, PHIL

3/2/92

$1,000

Williamson, Richard S

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS

6/6/91

$1,000

Levine, Mel

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS, PHILLIPS & KANTOR

4/13/92

$832

Manatt, Phelps et al

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS, PHILLIPS & KANTOR

12/23/91

$750

Daschle, Tom

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT PHELPS & PHILLIPS

4/7/94

$700

Manatt, Phelps et al

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS, PHILLIPS & KANTOR

12/23/91

$466

Daschle, Tom

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS & PHILLIPS

5/9/91

$419

Manatt, Phelps et al

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS & PHILLIPS

11/18/91

$250

Hyatt, Joel

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS ET AL

3/4/92

$250

Harman, Jane

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS, PHILLIPS & KANTOR

4/1/92

$250

Becerra, Xavier

LA,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS, PHILLIPS, ET AL

10/31/91

$250

Wofford, Harris L

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

MANATT, PHELPS, PHILLIPS & KANTOR

1/28/92

$1,000

Clinton, Bill

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

ATTORNEY

8/27/91

$250

Boxer, Barbara

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

MANATT, PHELPS & PHILLIPS

7/14/93

$250

Becerra, Xavier

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE D

MANATT, PHELPS & PHILLIPS

8/13/90

$391

Manatt, Phelps et al

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064

KIEFFER, GEORGE DAVID

MANATT, PHELPS & ROTHSTEIN

8/24/90

$1,000

Cmte for Democratic Opportunity

LOS ANGELES,CA 90064


15 posted on 11/11/2004 12:14:49 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; tubebender; farmfriend

>>Shocks the hell out of me.

Check out the contributions above. BTW, Manatt goes back to the Coelho fundraising days. Charming.


16 posted on 11/11/2004 12:16:40 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge

17 posted on 11/11/2004 12:18:18 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: calcowgirl

The Knew Ma-whority.


18 posted on 11/11/2004 1:02:02 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: calcowgirl; farmfriend; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Amerigomag; ..
"Manatt goes back to the Coelho fundraising days."

And Coelho reminds us of Fort Worthless Jim Wright. And Coelho sits on the board of the "Great Valley Center" with the former County Supervisor that I once defeated, who is closely tied through his Demonicrat mother to Phil Angelides and the Demonicrat Developer Community that includes Angelo Tsecopholis(sp?) who slept in the Lincoln bedroom while Clinton ran for re-election in '96...

The former County Supervisor referred to above is immediate past President of the "Sierra-Nevada Alliance" and King of the American River commercial Whitewater Rafting corporations that support "Friends of the River" and the "Sierra Business Council" that convinced Arnold to do the hideous SIERRA-NEVADA CONSERVANCY to exclude ANY industry but Eco-Tourism!!! (Oh! And the MOVIE INDUSTRY which includes Schwarzenrenegger!)

It's not a conspiracy... It's just plain old orchestration! Just follow the lines of political/magnetical influence and follow the money!!!

19 posted on 11/11/2004 5:40:20 PM PST by SierraWasp (Dems are stuck with Dubya! Congress won't impeach and they're scared spitless of Cheney!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
I always thought it was "The Gnu Ma-whority!"

You should be arrested and incarcerated for "word abuse!"(snort!)

20 posted on 11/11/2004 5:42:58 PM PST by SierraWasp (Dems are stuck with Dubya! Congress won't impeach and they're scared spitless of Cheney!!!)
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