Posted on 11/10/2004 10:05:41 PM PST by ambrose
WOO HOO! Full steam ahead Governor Rossi!!
That is what did in the Pubbie who lost to Cantwell. Tuco Bad (remember him, whatever the name was?) knew this, when I didn't, and predicted confidently that Cantwell would win, when the news stories said the Pubbie had pulled it out. This election has numbers almost like that race.
Advantage Gregoire. I hope I am wrong.
Go Dino Go!!!
Yeah, but Tuco Bad also said Bush would lose the election if he did not win California.
Wow, that would be fantastic if Rossi can win this.
But I really wish Washington state could tighten up on the rules for counting absentee and provisional ballots.
It's not fair to either Rossi or Gregoire to have to wait this long (and even longer) to find out whether they won or not.
Great! Finally, my county sees the light! I sure saw a LOT of Rossi signs here, and practically no Gregoire ones. Yes, GHC is Ratland, but even the silliest among us must have not had an easy time voting for Chrissie.
Go DR!!! Rock FR!!!! Woot!
A swath of ballots from King County have reduced Rossi's lead. I'm a pessimist like you but you never know. At least we got McKenna as Attorney General.
Just remember, every provisional ballot has to be individually certified as valid. Generally less than 25% are valid -- they tend to be people who aren't registered, had voted absentee or were registered in another area.
It historically was more like 75%. This year, it might be 50%, but it varies a lot by state. I suspect it will be higher in whitebread Washington.
BTT, Go Rossi!!! This waiting is killing me!!!
Go Dino! Time for CHANGE in Olympia! BTW....anybody seen Libertina lately? Or Grani?
No need to worry. If McKenna is honest and everyone I've talked to say he is, Gregoire will be going to prison.
[Rolling eyes.]
Yes, McKenna is honest. He's a man of high integrity. No, Gregoire is not going to prison.
Sheesh.
King County could wipe out Rossi's dream. Soviet Seattle is Christine Grigoire's baliwick. Stay tuned.
Before the 2000 election, no Republican had ever won election without winning the following states:
California, New Mexico, Illinois, Ohio, Vermont, and New Hampshire.
So it was perfectly reasonable to say that if Bush lost California, he wouldn't win election. There was absolutely no precedent for such an event.
Also no Republican had ever won since the McKinley/Hanna party building election of 1896 without winning:
Delaware and New Jersey.
Lastly, no Republican had ever won without winning:
Washington (except 1896, 1968 and 1988), Oregon (except 1868), Iowa (except 1988), Wisconsin (except 1924 and 1988), Michigan (except 1968), Pennsylvania (except 1968), New York (except 1868, 1968, and 1988), Connecticut (except 1888 and 1968), and Maine (except 1968).
Bush in 2000 and 2004 broke every single one of these rules except for Ohio.
In Bush/Rove's new party building elections, they are building on the southern strategy started by the party in 1928. Since 1928, no Republican has won election without winning:
Oklahoma, Texas (except 1968), Tennessee, Florida, and Virgina.
Perhaps the most telling point about the above rules are the lynch-pin elections for our party - 1860, 1896, 1928, 1968, 1992, and 2000.
1860 - establishment of the original Republican bastion -CA, OR, MN, IA, WI, IL, MI, IN, OH, PA, NY, CT, RI, MA, VT, NH, ME. The western states fall into this upon their admission into the union, and become locked in following the flirtation with Populism in 1892-1908.
1896 - addition of DE and NJ.
1928 - addition of TX, OK, TN, VA, FL; subtraction of MA and RI.
1968 - addition of NC; subtraction of MN, MI, NY, WA.
1988 - subtraction of OR, IA, and WI.
1992 - subtraction of CA, IL, PA, NJ, DE, CT, VT, ME.
2000 and 2004 bring us almost full circle from 1896. Bush/Rove win nearly exactly the opposite of what McKinley/Hanna had created. The Republicans are completely driven out of their traditional territory in New England, the Mid-Atlantic, the Great Lakes, and the West Coast, while they in turn have driven the Democrats completely out of the South, cleansing the final two holdouts of GA and WV only in 2000.
Not being a resident of Washington, my main interest is seeing the WA GOP develop a bench of potential future senatorial candidates from that state... otherwise, Patsy Murray could end up being "Senator-for-life" like our own Babs Boxer (ugh).
You might be surprised, but I won't be.
The Midwest is on the verge of flipping to the GOP.
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