They push leftist environmental, Margaret Samger type population control views.
They also are dishonest. Look at this graph from their "The Population-Environment Connection" page link
Note how it is presented to give a false impression of scale.
Posted on 11/10/2004 12:51:19 PM PST by VU4G10
(Washington, DC—November 10, 2004) It wasn't quite "Read my lips," but in the last presidential debate in Arizona, George W. Bush clearly stated that he would not support amnesty for illegal aliens. One week after being narrowly returned to office, the president has reneged on that pledge. Bush has dispatched Secretary of State Colin Powell to Mexico City to open discussions with the Mexican government about the size and scope of amnesty for illegal immigrants and for a massive new guest worker program.
"President Bush and Karl Rove have seemingly missed the message of their own, and the Republican Party's, success at the polls last week," said Dan Stein, president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). "In spite of a poor record on jobs, further erosion of the middle class, and staggering budget deficits, the people returned the GOP to office because they believed that the Republican Party was more in tune with them on values and respect for the law. One of those gut issues that led voters to ignore the administration's poor record in other areas was the belief that Bush and the Republicans would enforce laws against illegal immigration, not reward illegal immigrants and auction off every job in America to the lowest bidder."
The immigration plan being dusted off in Washington and Mexico City is essentially the same one the administration introduced last January, which proved to be so wildly unpopular among voters that they were forced to shelve it. "Who is the president seeking to reward by reintroducing his amnesty/guest worker proposal?" asked Stein. "Not middle class workers who made it very clear that they are feeling squeezed. Not the millions of families who have lost their health insurance benefits because their employers no longer feel that it is necessary to offer such benefits to attract American workers. Not Hispanic voters, whom polls indicate do not consider this to be high priority and who voted in significant numbers in favor of an Arizona ballot measure that bars illegal aliens from receiving most public benefits.
"The only interest group, besides the estimated 10 to 12 million illegal aliens and their families who could be in line for legal U.S. residency, are cheap labor employers who have come to believe that it is their right to have workers who will work at whatever wages they wish to pay," Stein said.
The latest White House announcement will touch off yet another surge in illegal immigration and further compromise homeland security, predicted FAIR. Last January, when the president first proposed this plan, the U.S. Border Patrol reported a marked increase in the number of people attempting to enter the U.S. illegally in order to benefit from the proposed amnesty. "Aside from betraying the interests of millions of people who voted for him because they believed the president shared their core values, this irresponsible renewal of talk of amnesty will betray those who voted for him because they believed the Republicans were the party that could be entrusted to protect homeland security. You cannot have homeland security and chaos at the border. You cannot have homeland security while granting amnesty to millions of people with only minimal background checks. And you certainly cannot have amnesty and unlimited guest workers, and preserve a solid middle class," asserted Stein.
Why don't admit that you would rather die than oppose anything that Bush proposes?
I defy you to post one reply where I've ever put myself out as a person of virtue.
I'll wait.
It also makes it more expensive to employ them -- now they're eligible for Social Securty, minimum wage, Workmen's Comp, OSHA etc. and they can complain if they don't get it.
Sorry, ain't no free ride. What are we gonna do have these guys mow lawns to the North Pole? Right now, according to an article I came across recently,(not sure somewhere in AZ), I read that the illegal alien cost to AZ is costing legal residents approximately $700.00 per household to have these guys here. So add that amount into your cheap lawn mowing. Find out how much you are saving.
I believe that is a very conservative estimate. In California, I wouldn't be suprised if it is not costing each household more like $2500.00 per household in support to keep this cheap labor here.
So, because others want rights not given to them in the Constitution, you suggest that we now use rights prohibited by United States law?
LOL, you're just a hypocrite.
Exactomundo..Leftist in conservative clothing.
I was reply to post 235 , which said
"Thus -- the 1982 Supreme Court case has answered your jurisdiction question, and further imparted not just the "protections" of the 14th Amendment, but it provided to illegals the benefits of citizenship."
The statement that schooling is a benefit of citizenship is simply untrue, the same as calling Bushs guest worker program "amnesty" - a poster here even stated that Bush wanted to give all these workers the right to vote, a blatent lie.
The attacks on Bush in these "discussions" is what I would expect from the Democrats on AirAmerica.
Personally, I believe ALL illegals should be deported, NO illegals should receive any benefits ( excepting emergency medical ) and a guest worker program should be put in place.
"When the Court converts the right to due process, into the right to receive benefits reserved to those here lawfully, the Court has overstepped its bounds. IMHO"
IMHO also
They push leftist environmental, Margaret Samger type population control views.
They also are dishonest. Look at this graph from their "The Population-Environment Connection" page link
Note how it is presented to give a false impression of scale.
Well, the more you post, the more you show your ignorance: I'm against this very plan and said so way back in January.
I knew you couldn't; just wanted it on record.
Try it here in New York - we can't build schools fast enough. They're a good part of the reason that we had a 22% increase in property taxes.
There is such thing as immigration laws. These people are criminals by definition. Plain and simple. Enforcement of laws will simply solve the problem. Otherwise, I think you are having an off day.
Enforcement by the people assigned to do it: the Border Patrol.
I've noticed two types of people on FR who talk about jobs Americans won't do.
One type is the country club trust-funder who's apparently never worked a day of physical labor in their life. They honestly can't imagine earning money with their hands.
Then there's the business owner who has a financial stake in millions of people flooding the country. They know Americans will do the work but simply don't want to take the cut in profits to attract legal workers.
If you admit you are doing, have done or will do those types of jobs, either type will sneer and say you deserve to lose out to an illegal alien.
Wage busting clowns, the lot of them.
Obviously, the Border Patrol cannot handle the load. The Feds really don't know how many illegals are in this country. They only can estimate. We need to take all military personnel, like from Camp Pendelton, and other bases in the South West and start protecting the border. We need to use the border patrol officers on inland assignments, and start deporting them.
Anyhow that is what I would do.
"On the contrary, my house is much more affordable having been built with laborers who worked for $6 an hour rather than for $75 an hour."
I guess it's okay with you that those $6.00 per hour carpenters have to get their food, housing and medical care at the taxpayer's expense, isn't it? "Privatize the profits...socialize the costs".
Are you under the impression that just saying something on FR makes it true; if you could prove it, you would.
And if we're going to post unsubstantiated stuff, I think you are a dwarf.
Since I don't have to PROVE what I say, according to your postings, people are free to believe it.
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