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1) What did we do, except fight FOR Muslims before 911 Where they murdered 3,000 people and destroyed 2 of the largest building in the world?

What Muslims probably will tell you is that the US has been supporting Israel without considering Palestines, the support of the Saudi Royal Familiy, and dictatorship regimes that have oil for trade.

Whether it is totally accurate is not the whole question anymore when Islamic organisations are training suicide bombers with these believes.

2) Why are they after Europeans when you guys are CLEARLY on their side in Iraq and Palestine?

Cause these people have grown into people filled with hate against anyone who does not share their believe. I think we both agree that you can't argue with terrorists. You might however be able to argue with people that are tending to radicalism.

3) Did the US respond to 3,000 murders by burning down Mosques and Islamic schools in the US?

I hope they did not. Cause I resent these acts

4) Are the Dutch intolerant for reacting to 1 murder by burning down Mosques and schools? Did the US cause your people to react that way? Where is the logic in the statement except an attempt to deny reality and blame others for your incorrect assessment of the situation?

Dutch people who do that are certainly most intolerant. There were White Power signs on the Uden school so that should say enough. No, the US did not cause people to react that way. The problem is very complex and if Bush is representative for Americans, Americans do not like complexity.

5) Did the Brits stir up the Nazis which lead to the invasion and occupation of the Netherlands? If not, why would you say the US is responsible for Muslims killing van Gogh?

Again... too simple.

if Bush is representative for Americans, Americans do not like complexity

teezle, you seem to be an intelligent guy. So don't buy into the Michael-Moore-ish leftist propaganda rubbish that President Bush is 'simple' and 'doesn't like complexity.'

The Left calls Bush 'simple-minded' because he sees a difference between good and evil. For the Left, this is anathema. In their relativistic world, everything must be a shade of gray; to believe otherwise is 'stupid.'

But our president is neither simple, nor stupid. (If IQ means anything to you, Bush's military records show that his IQ is a highly respectable 125+, higher than John Kerry's.)

Indeed, our president has just shown the world that he understands the 'complexity' of our nation's electorate, far better than all the pollsters, pundits, and prognosticators of the world.

Americans do not like complexity.

I guess that's why we have been to the moon and the farthest reaches of the universe. I guess that's why we've lead the world in science and technology for a century. I guess that is why we have the largest and most successful multi-racial, multi-cultural, multi-religion society in the history of mankind.

Let me refer you to Thomas Friedman who points out that the inhospitable environment in Europe for immigrants lead to the radicalization of people like Mohammad Atta - the master-mind of 911. Yes my friend, the most fervent Islamic radicals are bred in Europe not America and not the Mideast. So much for an enlightened, tolerant people.

I've spent a great deal of time throughout Europe and the thing that struck me most was how homogeneous you still are. You know nothing about tolerance. Come to America and you will see what tolerance is all about. We are made up of people from all over this planet. We are bound together by our love of freedom and tolerance for each others differences. We respect all people and cultures, if we didn't we wouldn't have survived. If we didn't, we would have run out and burned down Mosques and Islamic Schools in response to 911.

We are just a bunch of simple people over here? What you know about us and our President sounds like it could fit on the head of a pin.

I don't blame you per se. You have been willing to allow your press to fill you with propaganda. Europeans have a long history of falling for the big lies. As outcasts from your continent, we are far more skeptical by nature.

Your time of trial is coming. I don't think we'll be so quick to lend a hand this time.

Dutch people who do that are certainly most intolerant. There were White Power signs on the Uden school so that should say enough. No, the US did not cause people to react that way. The problem is very complex and if Bush is representative for Americans, Americans do not like complexity.

What we (conservatives) don't like is spinelessness, equivocation, and moral relativism. That in a nutshell is how we view the "complexity" that holds Europeans in its thrall.

It is the Dutch who are discovering the virtue of taking simple, straightforward moral stands. Unfortunately, in a moral sense their legs and spines have become atrophied from disuse so much over time they are too wobbly on their feet to stand more than a few brief moments at a time.

BTW, why weren't van Gogh's films and statements critical of Islam prosecuted under Dutch hate crime laws? Don't get me wrong. I believe hate crime laws are an abomination, an evil attempt to coerce thought. But I find it amusing that a country such as The Netherlands that would strictly censure a Christian who declared publicly that homosexuality is a vile disorder of the soul and body would blithely wink at van Gogh's suggestions that Muslims are subhuman goatf***ers.

At the same time, Europe needs to stop rationalizing the irrational hatred that possesses Islamic terrorists. Islamic terror is not the result of some "failed integration policy" or of some real or imagined Muslim grievance supposedly caused by U.S. Middle East policy. It is fueled by a totalitarian ideology that seeks world domination and the subjugation of infidels and the West. The sooner Europe comes to terms with this truth the sooner it will begin to combat the fanaticism that claimed the life of Mr. van Gogh.

The Van Gogh Murder
November 10, 2004; Page A16

http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB110004023978469379,00.html