Posted on 11/10/2004 2:52:53 AM PST by teezle
Then hang onto your head.
There was an FR post just a few days ago about the harrassment of the Republican Club at San Francisco State University.
Dozens (hundreds?) of middle Eastern type "students" wearing the Pali kalifah and hurling invective at the Republican kids who had police protection. Photos were included in the post so it was clear that the story was true.
The SF State administration did nothing, said nothing.
to become part of society and stand against the terrorists and radicals who they say have stolen their peaceful religion.
Never going to happen.
Smoke him/her out!
I suggest you read Samuel Huntington's The Clash of Civilizations (don't know if it has been translated into Dutch or Arabic). But in it, he says, "All Islam's borders are bloody."
Unfortunately for the Netherlands, Islam's borders are in your own cities and towns.
To blame the violence in the Netherlands on US involvement in the Middle East is to miss the point entirely. You might recall US involvement in the ME escalated dramatically after the first Gulf War where we liberated Muslim Kuwaitis from Muslim Saddam. Or Muslim Bosnia from Orthodox Serbs in Europe. The Islamo-fascists need very little excuse to resort to violence over some imagined slight or grief as Mr. Van Gogh discovered too late.
More:
-Fortuyn questioned NATO role of supporting radical islamism
-was critical of legal travesty on Dutch soil (ICTY kangaroo court)
I guess that's why we have been to the moon and the farthest reaches of the universe. I guess that's why we've lead the world in science and technology for a century. I guess that is why we have the largest and most successful multi-racial, multi-cultural, multi-religion society in the history of mankind.
Let me refer you to Thomas Friedman who points out that the inhospitable environment in Europe for immigrants lead to the radicalization of people like Mohammad Atta - the master-mind of 911. Yes my friend, the most fervent Islamic radicals are bred in Europe not America and not the Mideast. So much for an enlightened, tolerant people.
I've spent a great deal of time throughout Europe and the thing that struck me most was how homogeneous you still are. You know nothing about tolerance. Come to America and you will see what tolerance is all about. We are made up of people from all over this planet. We are bound together by our love of freedom and tolerance for each others differences. We respect all people and cultures, if we didn't we wouldn't have survived. If we didn't, we would have run out and burned down Mosques and Islamic Schools in response to 911.
We are just a bunch of simple people over here? What you know about us and our President sounds like it could fit on the head of a pin.
I don't blame you per se. You have been willing to allow your press to fill you with propaganda. Europeans have a long history of falling for the big lies. As outcasts from your continent, we are far more skeptical by nature.
Your time of trial is coming. I don't think we'll be so quick to lend a hand this time.
After eating dinner at Montmarte, myself and maybe 7 or 8 biz colleagues (Americans + Parisians) walked over to Sacre-Coeur to take in the nighttime view. Maybe 12:30 or later.
The parking lot was full of middle-Eastern looking kids, some smoking dope and drinking wine.
We didn't feel threatened, but we didn't stick around too long either.
Actually he said "You are either with us, or with the terrorists".
It should be a really easy choice, for anyone who is not secretly for the terrorists.
And I have learned, in the last three years, that there are far too many countries and people who are "with the terrorists".
The reason why Dutch muslims are now speaking out is their mosques are burning. Im sure muzzies here in US will also speak out when mosques are burning.
Said in the context of the fight against terrorists. Please do not extend it further than that.
So you agree with moral relativism.
And as a moral relativist, you must then agree that it was 'right' for an Islamic fundamentalist to murder Theo Van Gogh, because it was 'right for him'?
ping
I think this thread is calling your name
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1276229/posts
I think we will see similar acts of violence coming from the left-wing wackos...
some of which posted their own pics here:
http://www.sorryeverybody.com/gallery/1/
I reject the premise altogether.
Surely those complexity-loving, nuanced Europeans can see the difference between "for us or against us" and "with us, or with the terrorists".
If they can't, I guess they're pretty simpleminded after all. 8^P
Bravo.
Sounds like Paris needs Rudy Giuliani. Those areas of Paris don't sound all that different from quite a few areas in New York City under David Dinkins, mayor.
Rudy Giuliani came in and cleaned up the city making it a whole lot safer for the law abiding residents. He operated on the "broken window" theory of law enforcement.
Paris needs to not look at these young men as Muslims, but as lawbreakers who are preventing decent law-abiding citizens from having full access to their city. People have the right to live in peace and security. A government's duty is to protect the population.
Paris does itself no favors by not enforcing its laws and actually creates an atmosphere where more disorder, chaos, and danger can grow.
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