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To: Clint N. Suhks
I am not an animal rights activist. I'm a conservative who disagrees with you. Get over it.

Two things on the bestiality comment: first, raping an animal is animal cruelty, which is illegal. Humane killing of animals for food is not illegal. Secondly, there is a strong correlation between people who have sex with or otherwise abuse animals and those that go on to commit acts of abuse or other violence against people. Research most of the famous serial killers (Henry Lee Lucas and Jeffery Dahmer to name a couple) and you will find that they had a history of torturing or raping animals.

13 year olds do not have the capacity to consent to sex with an adult. That's why statutory rape laws exist, to prevent to abuse of children and teens who are persuaded into sex by predatory adults. Are you telling me that child molestation is ok as long as there is no struggle or as long as the child or teenager likes the person that is raping them?

Incest is illegal because it usually concerns parents or older siblings sexually abusing children in their homes. Adult incest is illegal because of the public health concerns with two close relatives producing offspring who are many times more likely to have congenital defects because of homozygous genetic diseases. That's why in some states, you can marry your 2nd cousin, and in others the closest relative you can marry is your 4th cousin.

Again, two consenting adults having a sexual relationship violates no one's rights to life, liberty, or property, while the above situations involve victims or public health/order violations.

94 posted on 11/10/2004 11:00:01 AM PST by AshleyMatt
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To: AshleyMatt
I am not an animal rights activist.

Then that makes you a hypocrite. I’ve asked every animal I know and they say having “sex” with humans is much better than being food. Go figure.

Two things on the bestiality comment: first, raping an animal is animal cruelty, which is illegal. Humane killing of animals for food is not illegal.

Umm...wrong and wrong. Bestiality is legal in many states, check out the “legal” porn industry. Animals are personal property, if you want to regulate said property then maybe we should begin with your blow-up doll. Next, the very word humane implies compassion…if you think being knocked over the head with a sledge hammer is “humane” then you’re nuts.

Secondly, there is a strong correlation between people who have sex with or otherwise abuse animals and those that go on to commit acts of abuse or other violence against people. Research most of the famous serial killers (Henry Lee Lucas and Jeffery Dahmer to name a couple) and you will find that they had a history of torturing or raping animals.

You haven’t proved that bestiality is inhumane except by virtue of arbitrary law, and since it IS legal in many states then your logic doesn’t hold. I guess all those actors in the bestiality porn industry will suddenly turn to crime, you better go arrest them before they kill someone. There’s higher correlation between homosexuality and mass murder than bestiality, scripter I’m sure can put you on a cite for that. Nice try though.

13 year olds do not have the capacity to consent to sex with an adult. That's why statutory rape laws exist, to prevent to abuse of children and teens who are persuaded into sex by predatory adults. Are you telling me that child molestation is ok as long as there is no struggle or as long as the child or teenager likes the person that is raping them?

Capacity to Consent is measured by IQ, check out the death penalty statute in Texas, emancipation of adults with Downs syndrome and the process for “Power of Attorney” for the elderly. Many if not most 13 year olds have an adult IQ; the only thing not allowing them to consent is arbitrary law. So if the legislature made the age of consent 12, then by your logic, it would be OK? Or again, are you just another hypocrite with a pro-homosexual agenda?

Incest is illegal because it usually concerns parents or older siblings sexually abusing children in their homes. Adult incest is illegal because of the public health concerns with two close relatives producing offspring who are many times more likely to have congenital defects because of homozygous genetic diseases. That's why in some states, you can marry your 2nd cousin, and in others the closest relative you can marry is your 4th cousin.

I said consenting adults, keep up. If heath concern is your gig, then why couldn’t you answer my question about two consenting adult brothers, that’s OK right? Or is it just another of your hypocritical positions again?

Given your health concerns, should we regulate those with genetic defects from having sex, getting married? The CDC says they pass on their defects at a rate of 95% OF THE TIME, a much greater risk than incest. Those with Downs syndrome, Spina Bifita, cleft palate, should be barred from sex by your logic. What about personal responsibility? Condoms, the pill? What about abortion? You haven’t thought this out that far have you?

97 posted on 11/10/2004 11:47:32 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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