[Bob J]

"This is in keeping with the actual history of the Republican Party. It was founded in the 1850's explicitly as the party of high taxes to subsidize politically connected businesses..."

The Republican party was created after a war in the Whig party over slavery. The Whigs supported it, the first pub presidential candidate, Lincoln, ended it.

It's crap like this that is pushing me from a Libertarian resister to a Libertarian despiser.

[rhetor]

A lot of the nonsense from the above excerpt is repeated by John Loftus. The more I find out about him, the more of a kook he appears to be. Why does a smart guy like John Batchelor have Loftus on his show so often?

I agree with you about the Libertarians. I went to a meeting several years ago; all they could talk about was how intrusive it was of the government that they could not smoke as much marijuana as they wanted. They're "libertines" not "libertarians." I agree with their free market stance on economics only because it's not original with the LP; they got it from great classical liberals like Ludwig von Mises.

[SJackson]

Minor correction.

The Republican party was created after a war in the Whig party over slavery. The Whigs supported it, the first second pub presidential candidate, Lincoln, ended it. The "American Party" were the know nothings.

Election Results--1856

Presidential Candidate	Party	State	Popular Vote:	Electoral Vote:
James Buchanan	Democratic	Pennsylvania	1,838,169	174
John Charles Frémont	Republican	California	1,341,264	114
Millard Fillmore	American	New York	874,534	8
Vice Presidential Candidate	Party	State	Popular Vote:	Electoral Vote:
John Cabell Breckinridge	Democratic	Kentucky	- - -	174
William Lewis Dayton	Republican	New Jersey	- - -	114
Andrew Jackson Donelson	American