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To: Pitiricus
Well, understand that a religion-based value system (and this is what this opposition to contraception AND to abortion is) is also not to be imposed in a country without an established religion...

Umm, that's GOVERNMENT established religion; there is a difference. Now then, if the government abandons all moral restrictions under that premise then they would be supporting atheism wouldn't they? And you just told me that is a no-no! Quite the logical problem there eh? You deal w/ it. And here is hoping that you do better than just changing the subject as you did one post ago.

Sooooo, if we do actually go back to the original argument, the issue is not that of contraception, or of religion, or the constitution, but of moral choice surrounding murder; at least that is the logical direction I have been forwarding for discussion. If life does start at conception then what exactly is the destruction of that life? Do you know when life begins, and are you or I “god” enough to risk killing someone without knowing? Does the means by which this potential execution takes place matter? And lastly (follow carefully here) what does that have to do with any deity? Are you suggesting that murder is acceptable or that there is no murder unless God exists? My contentions have been “religion free”; methinks thou dost protest too much.

I have to go for now. Happy writing while you "deal with it".

400 posted on 11/09/2004 11:52:59 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: Pitiricus

Poor Pitifulricus... I guess you couldn't deal w/ it.


519 posted on 11/10/2004 2:26:21 PM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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