Paper Ballots in Legal Tangle (NM, "perceived" fraud?)

The Albuquerque Journal ^ | November 9, 2004 | David Miles and Rene Romo

[CedarDave]

A long read, but it brings folks up to date here in NM.

As of this morning at the time of posting, President Bush leads by 8,273 votes (still have those two missing precincts out there!). The most up to date results can be found below. I caution going to the NM SOS office because their results fluctuate (votes posted, lost and posted again as they update counties).

New Mexico Election Results (ABQJournal/AP)

[NonValueAdded]

Flashbacks of FReepers storming the star chamber.

[SwatTeam]

When I went to the site you linked there was an ad at the bottom for Kerry bumper stickers and t-shirts. Isn't that a government site? And if so I wonder how they can heve an ad for either candidate.

[Danno]

Does any of this give us a clue as to what happened on election night when 28,000 unanswered Kerry votes materialized out of thin air just as the networks were about to call the state seeing there was a 30,000 vote lead for Bush with 99% of the vote counted?

[NonValueAdded]

The link takes you to a newspaper, The Albuquerque Journal.

[SwatTeam]

That's the way the democrat machine operates. During 2000 the President had won NM by about 200 votes and some precinct "found" 500 votes for Gore that had been entered incorrectly. Of course, by then the Florida fiasco was in full uproar and it was allowed to stand. I think Algore won NM by about 300 votes. If I'm am wrong about this someone from NM please post a correction.

[SwatTeam]

OOPS My coffee hasn't kicked in yet and I had narrow vision and missed that it was a paper instead of the official site. I stand corrected and I apologize.

[Robert A Cook PE]

I am suspicious.

Can't specifically claim fraud, but the situation doesn't pass the "smell test" ....

Democrats counting and sorting ballots (by hand) AND SELECTING WHICH BALLOTS ARE TO BE COUNTED without observation by honest (republican) observers IS fraud.

[chimera]

The results thus far must stick in Richardson's craw. I wouldn't put it past him to "find" just enough votes to give NM to Kerry, just to spite Bush and the Republicans. Richardson is a Clinton political hack from 'way back and well-schooled in the arts of fraud and deceit.

Well, they aren't going to get away with that crap in OH. In spite of Bob Taft's weakness, Ken Blackwell (SoS) won't put up with any nonsense. And the sentries on the ground here won't let them, either.

[raptor29]

My gut feeling is that Richardson probably doesn't want to follow through with a full scale fraud this time and give his state to Bush, because it doesn't matter. And if this does happen, there will be even more of an outcry for an investigation into New Mexico voter fraud, and voter fraud nationally. This works against having the same corrupt system in place for Hillary and future Dems. After all, the Republicans didn't press for changes after 2000, and we all were sweating out voter fraud in 2004 as a result.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

About a third were disqualified for a variety of reasons but mainly because the voter was not registered or they lacked the proper signatures.

I'd really like to know which candidate was chosen on those disqualified ballots. I think We The People have a right to know.

[chimera]

True that it doesn't matter in the overall decision if Richardson flips NM to Kerry. That's why I say if he does it at all it will just be for spite, plus a personal satisfaction of "delivering" (fraud and all) "his" state to Kerry.

[RoseofTexas]

I saw the lady in charge of the DONA ANA vote counting on the News last night.....LET me just say...VOTER FRAUD GALORE! A very dishonest WITCH! She is the one who booted the pubs out because they were disturbing those that were counting the votes....HMMMMMMM why were they up in arms, WERE they seeing something fishy going on?! If the outcome turns to sKerry, I hope the pubs will take it to court! OBTW, the DONA ANA witch said that by today they should have a verified count! Keep your eyes open!

[CedarDave]

More info on the provisional ballot issue on the NM local board, here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/profiles?location=79

[wolfman]

this smells of coverup. the fraud probably happened on election day. They're probably shredding the evidence.

[Cicero]

I think it does still matter. If they can give the state to Kerry, it will make Bush's victory look smaller and more questionable. They would of course, say that the state was taken from Bush and given to Kerry because of Republican election fraud.

Also a kerry victory would make Richardson look better, and help him be a power broker, if not a candidate, in 2008.

[rarenmrepublican]

I was supposed to be at the Dona Ana courthouse today to serve as a republican watcher as they canvassed the provisional ballots, but I was told nevermind, they are still in a meeting to determine if watchers are legal. SOS Vigil is pulling out all the legal stops to hand this state to Kerry.

[demlosers]

So they don't believe in an open ballot count. Stalin tactics.

[geedee]

I was supposed to be at the Dona Ana courthouse today . . .

Thank you for fighting on the frontlines for us disabled Pubbies who can only cheer you and the Republican troops on. It's a nice feeling knowing folks like you are looking after our interests.

[Ruth C]

Just for information: I think the missing precincts in those two counties are the absentee ballots. From the site you get the * note at the bottom * Total number of precincts includes one for each precinct plus one for absentee votes. I don't know that the absentee have not been counted, nor that the provisional ballots go into that absentee number?