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America Can Teach Israel Something On Being Chosen (America Is God's Country Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 11/08/04 | Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 11/07/2004 11:21:16 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: Fallstaff

"Arguments that are not based in reality is the hallmark of liberals. I don't think we should engage in such folly."

So very true. It's a waste of time and energy because liberals just don't "see."


21 posted on 11/08/2004 1:05:10 AM PST by Serena
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To: goldstategop
Israel is clearly fallen all the while they make their case based on their mythic claim to be inheritors of a "Promised Land" and God's "Chosen People" but the Bible teaches they've fallen off the wagon before, they're not infallible. There is a callus hubris strengthened by the Nazi Holocaust permeating Israeli politics and special interests. The most recent Intifada has left 942 Israeli dead (including IDF) and 3,434 Palestinian dead (excluding suicide bombers).

I'd hazard a guess God is more with America than against it. That doesn't make America or Americans "Chosen" at all or even, particularly, "God's Country"... We're greatly blessed and attempt to spread free exercise of the Creator's gifts of unalienable rights to the oppressed and butchered by fellow humans.

We're flawed, like all humanity, but continue to do good works. God can be seen in good works but we must remember humility.

This article's assertions are perverse and dangerously prideful.

22 posted on 11/08/2004 3:05:50 AM PST by newzjunkey (San Diego, Kleptocrasy by the Sea. -- VOID the Illegal Mayoral "Election")
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To: goldstategop
Americans decided that their strength lay not in being popular but in being moral.

Indeed. America for Americans not for Europhilia.

23 posted on 11/08/2004 3:09:16 AM PST by newzjunkey (San Diego, Kleptocrasy by the Sea. -- VOID the Illegal Mayoral "Election")
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To: goldstategop
"God's chosen people

God chooses who his people are, not people else they would be called "People's chosen people." Hello?! Duh!

24 posted on 11/08/2004 3:30:21 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: DoughtyOne

Well said. We are indeed blessed by God. But we must repent or forfeit that blessing.


25 posted on 11/08/2004 5:36:59 AM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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The promised land is the land of Israel.
Open the bible and read :)


26 posted on 11/08/2004 5:44:59 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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This article is simple a big joke, and compare betwin Israel or Europe is a joke.


27 posted on 11/08/2004 5:46:13 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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To: AmericaUnited; Thinkin' Gal
God chooses who his people are, not people else they would be called "People's chosen people." Hello?! Duh!

Exactly. G-d's covenant is forever.

28 posted on 11/08/2004 5:47:31 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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If you check the most unwanted nation on earth then it would be Israel.
Israel's opinion about europe and especially UN is wrose than the american opinion... in our view UN is nothing than a terror supporter organization and must be cancelled.

America voted for her security- and what do you think Israel is doing since 1948? voting for the enviornment? lol

Israel looks like USA or better to say that USA looks like Israel those days. Betwin Israel and the europians there is a major hateness those days.

I feel ashamed when being compared to the europian nations who murdered 6 million of my poeple, and supporting this till this day.


29 posted on 11/08/2004 5:54:04 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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If anyone here was the first to ignore all the world and do whats the best for its poeple, then its the state of Israel.
Otherwise state of Israel was today a desert full of religious fanatics riding on camels, with 5 million jews less on earth.


30 posted on 11/08/2004 5:57:01 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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To: goldstategop

I have some inside information that Israel(Jews) will once again acknowledge that they are the chosen people and that G-d does indeed consider them a shining light.All in due time.:)


31 posted on 11/08/2004 6:13:09 AM PST by quack
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To: goldstategop

Don't be too quick to proclaim your self "God's chosen people." Once you do so, a kind of hubris sets in, the kind that bit Newt Gingrich in the butt after mis-reading the '94 election results.

Quoth the Einstein:

The most important human endeavor is the striving for morality in our actions. Our inner balance and even our very existence depend on it. Only morality in our actions can give beauty and dignity to life.
--Albert Einstein

I think claiming to know what God thinks is akin to hubris and hubris causes one to become unbalanced, therefore hubris is immoral.

We may only be specially blessed since we look out for Israel, as well as the rest of the world. But if we allow hubris to take root, how long may we count on that blessing?

Maybe God wants the occupied territories cleared out so there can be a final cleansing of suicide bombers and such?

If you trust that Dubya is God's chosen leader for the U.S. at this time then you must accept that Sharon is the chosen leader for Israel at this time.

At any rate, I don't believe God's Chosen People ought to conduct themselves as a bunch of undisciplined braggarts, whoever they might be. Set yourself upon too high a pedestal and you risk suffering from hypoxia.


32 posted on 11/08/2004 8:37:23 AM PST by Duke Nukum (When there is no room in Hell, the U.N. elect Bill Clinton as their president.)
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To: goldstategop

=== Guess what nation is now God's Country and who is now God's Chosen People?


Sure as hell ain't gonna be the Potential People for whom the State of California will be paying in the billions nor the embryos used to confect the 72 lines (and counting..) of our pro-life President's taxpayer funded human experimentation on the Excess Manufacture where "God's blessings" are concerned.


33 posted on 11/08/2004 12:08:21 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Duke Nukum

God bless you, Duke!


34 posted on 11/08/2004 12:08:59 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Duke Nukum

So, we're not to know what God thinks? How do you support that claim?


35 posted on 11/08/2004 12:23:52 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: goldstategop
Any observer of last week's American elections would have to conclude that it is the United States that has now taken upon itself the role of being God's chosen people.

This much I can agree with. We're the self-annointed, on a mission to save the world on our own terms. The pelagian presuppositions of the American myth are working themselves out now.

36 posted on 11/08/2004 12:37:03 PM PST by Romulus (Why change Horsemen in the middle of the Apocalypse?)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Those whom the Gods would destroy they first make proud.

Check!

37 posted on 11/08/2004 1:07:14 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr (Here comes Chanukah...)
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To: monkeywrench
This is silly. I simply said it is hubris to believe you know the mind of God, and it is. It is the same kind of hubris that the enviro-wacktovists indulge in.

If you go around proclaiming that Election 2004 is proof that Americans are God's Chosen People you will only alienate Americans.

If we are God's Chosen People, let God proclaim it so there is not doubt. Instead of worrying about silly labels to apply to yourself, maybe you should work on what God has laid before you.

It's like people who worry about the end of the world. Since only God knows when the world will end, it isn't something we should be overly preoccupied with. There are things God gives us to know and other things He keeps only for himself to know and doesn't even let the angels in on.
38 posted on 11/08/2004 2:00:20 PM PST by Duke Nukum (When there is no room in Hell, the U.N. elect Bill Clinton as their president.)
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