A darker picture of frontier heroes emerges

New York Times News Service via HoustonChronicle.com ^ | Nov. 6, 2004 | RALPH BLUMENTHAL

[Centurion2000]

Five words to respond to this tripe ...

Remember the Alamo
Remember Goliad

Santa Ana was no saint.

[Doctor Stochastic]

None of this was ever "covered up" that I remember. We were taught much of in Texas History classes.

[avg_freeper]

"People are still coming across skeletons," said the professor, Benjamin Heber Johnson"

Major Owens: "Also, to this day sharks still walk around the land waiting for a meal"

[Racehorse]

None of this was ever "covered up" that I remember. We were taught much of in Texas History classes.

Not to mention what we find on the history channel. [smile] Look at what they did with the Alamo. (I enjoyed that particular documentary, though)

I think what we have going on, as reviewed by the Houston Chronicle via the New York Times Service, is academic bone sifting. The story you tell depends on which pile you drop your old bone onto. Voila, a new historical revelation!

[Maven]

Red Bluff, CA is about 90 miles north of Sacramento. It has its own website - and a fairly good historical society.

[ozzymandus]

There was a little-known border war between the US and Mexico in this period. Naturally, the left seizes any excuse to make America look like a murdering bully.

[Fiddlstix]

Ping

[Ciexyz]

Read through the accounts of settlers on the frontier and whites captured by Indian tribes, from the early days of settlement up through the post-Civil War Indian wars, and you find that the Indians fought to win. They slaughtered their enemy and tortured their captives. Not a pretty picture. Their actions made the settlers fear them and react with fierce and brutal policies.

Hey, it was the times. Don't whitewash the truth, MSM, don't rewrite history to fit your PC distorted world view.

[MeekOneGOP]

bump!

[WorkingClassFilth]

Being a history buff, I thought you might want to look this one up:

VIGILANTE DAYS AND WAYS. Nathaniel Pitt Langford. Copyright 1890, 1912. Original publisher A.C. McClurg & Co. and by permission, A.L. Burt Co.

This is a terrific book that sticks it to the consistent lie about vigilantes being the antithesis of civilization. The account acknowleges error and brutality in some cases, but in large, the need for vigilantism is a noble and proud component of American history. In fact, it may just be the embodiment of the realization of 'self-rule' so worshipped in the Western tradition. Let us not forget that the rise of lynch mobs in the reconstruction south and the KKK were Democrat institutions wrongly attributed to the right.

The use of the vigiante commitees was to stop and punish those for whom the law (and all measures of decency) held no boundaries in a land without just authority. Most on the frontier sought the peace and freedom to pursue their lives, but beyond the organized law (correctly interpreted from the bench), the predators and violent ruled the day - until the 'everyman' stepped up to the plate. A fascinating read and one sure antidote to the Leftist Hollywood demonization of law - justice - in the hands of a righteous people.

[jorod4u]

Have any of you actually read the by-laws of this site?? The following is stated plainly:

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That being said . . .

Do the statements "Serious discussion" or "Elimination of Governmental corruption & abuse . . .? " carry any significance for any of you?

This discussion, topic &/or Forum has nothing to do with race or the romanticizing of long dead members of any organization . . . . the point of the discussion is how we as a democratic society composed of an amalgam of peoples, cultures & races, choose to work together to nurture the organizations and individuals entrusted to ensure and protect the rights and freedoms outlined in our National Constitution. There are no sacred cows in American society. Honest, sometimes brutal gazes back into our history may perhaps save our butts one day. The more we understand our past, however flawed, the less likely we are to repeat the same injustices and emotional spasms which have kept us from realizing the creed of our Glorious Nation: We hold these truths to be self evident . . . "

The ignorance, racism and pseudo-intellectualism posted on this site makes me sad and further perpetuates the barriers which even now keep us divided. And we have the unmitigated audacity to label others as intolerant. God save us all!

[WorkingClassFilth]

Thanks for the spanking. I'm saddened that you're saddened but I'm not sure what it is you're saddened about. You've posted to specifically to me but you direct you comments to a collective us. Seems more like a whine to me; so what's the problem? Are you looking for a footnoted analysis of American racism, failures in our foreign policy or a detailed action plan to reclaim academe and overturn revisionism? Seems to me that reproof without specifics does nothing but help mollify your own sense of outrage. I suspect that you've got way too much time on your hands if you've taken on the task of correcting doctrine and posting etiquette.