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Democrats Have Bad Case of the Blues
Apnews Myway ^ | 11/05/04 | TOM RAUM

Posted on 11/06/2004 12:30:21 PM PST by Perdogg

WASHINGTON (AP) - After losing back-to-back presidential elections, Democratic leaders are trying to figure out how to make the party more relevant to mainstream Americans and keep it from slipping into perpetual minority-party status.

And the task is daunting, many Democratic consultants and leaders agree.

Republicans have cut deeply into formerly Democratic areas in rural America, the Sunbelt, and among Hispanics, the nation's fastest-growing minority group. They have made gains on "family values" issues, winning over social conservatives who previously voted Democratic on economic issues, while keeping their advantage on national defense.

"We were on a tough playing field," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., suggesting Republicans had made inroads among socially conservative former Democrats by emphasizing "wedge issues" like gay marriage and abortion.

Ballot measures in 11 states to ban gay marriage also helped boost turnout for Republicans.

Democrats also have no strong leader to pull the party out of the wilderness.

With the defeat of Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, the party's top two congressional leaders are Pelosi, a San Francisco-area liberal, and Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, now the No. 2 leader, known mostly as a low-key insider.

For 2008, the presumptive leading presidential candidates are New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a Northeastern centrist and one of the most polarizing figures in American politics, and North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, a trial lawyer and failed vice presidential candidate with little public service besides six years in Congress.

Democrats have a bad case of the blues after seeing so much red.

A look at the 2004 election map with states President Bush won in red and John Kerry's in blue underscores the dilemma.

Unbroken stretches of red nearly from coast to coast, encompassing most of the heartland, the South, the Great Plains, the desert Southwest and the Rocky Mountain West. Blue states are mostly a fringe along both coasts - the Northeastern seaboard and the West Coast states of California, Oregon and Washington - along with some of the industrial states bordering the Great Lakes.

Democrats suffer from a chronic geographical and ideological predilection: They nominate candidates from the political left who have a hard time appealing to those in the middle.

"My advice to the Democrats is never, never nominate anybody from Massachusetts again," said Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers University.

The last Northeastern Democrat elected president was John F. Kennedy in 1960. Since then, just three Democrats - all from the South - have served: Lyndon Johnson of Texas, Jimmy Carter of Georgia and Bill Clinton of Arkansas.

Once solidly Democratic, the South today is solidly Republican.

Democrats also lost seats in the House and Senate, increasing GOP majorities there.

"I don't think there's any question that we did not get the wind, the uplift that we had expected in this campaign," said Rep. Robert Matsui, D-Calif., chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. "The red states, after the debates, got redder."

Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg said Friday that Democrats were never able to bring economic issues to the fore. "We run elections in a real world. You can choose to say you wanted to focus on the economy, but Iraq was a powerful story. People were dying. You cannot have Iraq news without a candidate talking about it," Greenberg told reporters during a post-mortem session.

Robert Borosage, co-director of the liberal Campaign for America's Future, said: "Democrats have started forming their circular firing squads."

But Borosage urged Democrats not to capitulate, saying polling suggests a majority still supports the Democratic position on many economic and domestic issues like health care and the economy.

Al From, head of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, which helped put Bill Clinton on the path to the White House in 1992, said Democrats "have to do a better job with connecting with those people who go to work every day and play by the rules."

"We need to compete all over the country. We can't allow ourselves to abandon any region like the South. And we can't cede territory to the Republicans because they'll take every inch we give."

Jenny Backus, a Democratic consultant, said the election was closer than Bush's 3.5 million-vote victory makes it seem. She suggested a swing to Kerry of 100,000 votes in Ohio would have given him the presidency.

Still, she said, "I think we can do a better job - and I don't blame this on Kerry, it's just something constitutionally we haven't done - of talking more about our values and love of country."

Democrats search the dark clouds for signs of light. Republicans could overplay their hand. Democrats still have an edge among Hispanics, which they could exploit. Focusing most of their attention this year on battleground states, they could do more to reach out to voters in other parts of the country, particularly in the Southwest and Mountain States.

Stephen Hess, a presidential scholar at the Brookings Institution, said he's seen the Republican party all but written off in the past when Democrats simultaneously ruled the White House and Congress - only to come roaring back.

"Eventually, the party in power is going to screw up," Hess said.

House Democratic leader Pelosi put it another way. "Quite frankly, I think the table is set for us in the next election," she said. "We have lost just about everything that we can lose."


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To: Pegita

Pray for them per Psalms 109: may their days be short and few in number, and may another assume their place...


21 posted on 11/06/2004 12:50:01 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

Amen ...


22 posted on 11/06/2004 12:53:42 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Perdogg
Democrats Have Bad Case of the Blues

And I have a bad case of the I Don't Cares

23 posted on 11/06/2004 12:54:29 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: Perdogg
Democrats "have to do a better job with connecting with those people who go to work every day and play by the rules."
But to do such connection the Democrats themselves will have to start playing by the rules - and that means completely repudiating and denouncing clintorroids ("because I could") and everything and everyone who ever came within three miles [approximate line of sight on a clear day] from them, as ritually polluted, impure and forbidden - 'haram'.
24 posted on 11/06/2004 12:55:08 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Perdogg
Bemoanerbation Ping
25 posted on 11/06/2004 12:55:41 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Perdogg
House Democratic leader Pelosi put it another way. "Quite frankly, I think the table is set for us in the next election," she said. "We have lost just about everything that we can lose."

This one should go into the Spin Hall of Fame: We're at rock-bottom, just where we want to be for next time!

I think the bolt holding her face up was turned a few times too many.

26 posted on 11/06/2004 12:55:54 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: Perdogg
House Democratic leader Pelosi put it another way. "Quite frankly, I think the table is set for us in the next election," she said. "We have lost just about everything that we can lose." How about you?
27 posted on 11/06/2004 12:56:47 PM PST by andyandval
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To: Paladin2

I know that George Allen Jr has to run for re-election.

HRC has to run. The California GOP wasted a perfectly good opportunity to rid the US Senate of Barbara Boxer.

Is Dick Durban up for re-election??


28 posted on 11/06/2004 12:59:49 PM PST by Perdogg (W stands for Winner)
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To: Perdogg
House Democratic leader Pelosi put it another way. "Quite frankly, I think the table is set for us in the next election," she said. "We have lost just about everything that we can lose."

Hey Nancy. You ain't seen nutin' yet. The way your party is headed, you will be lucky to have half the reps and senators in Congress over the next 15 or 20 years.

Note to the RAT party: When you are in a hole, stop digging.


29 posted on 11/06/2004 1:00:25 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (****We won - - - you lost - - - - GET OVER IT!!****)
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To: votelife

By the time the Dems clean her up for the next go around, she'll be two steps to the right of Atilla the Hun.


30 posted on 11/06/2004 1:00:57 PM PST by ladylib
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To: Perdogg
Pelosi: "We have lost just about everything that we can lose."

No way, Drumface! You're just getting started losing, because you're a loser and your parties ideologies are losers. Democrats haven't had a good idea in over 50 yrs.

So get used to it, Nancy, You'll soon be voted out and watching from the sidelines where you belong.

You can count on it!

31 posted on 11/06/2004 1:05:11 PM PST by Bullish
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To: ladylib

I called my favorite sales lady at Nordstroms looking for a particular item. I hadn't talked to her for a while so I asked how her week was, she said it had been BAD. She seemed down. Although I didn't ask, I suspected she was down over the election.

Had I known she was a demonrat, I wouldn't asked her out a few weeks ago.


32 posted on 11/06/2004 1:10:14 PM PST by Perdogg (W stands for Winner)
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To: beyond the sea

Sure, Nancy. But every time you think you've hit rock bottom, you go and dig a sub-basement for yourselves. Need a shovel?


33 posted on 11/06/2004 1:14:35 PM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free. ")
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To: Perdogg

If you found out she was a Dem, you could ask her out and try to convert her.


34 posted on 11/06/2004 1:15:37 PM PST by ladylib
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To: Motherbear
They think they can stop the electors from voting, and are planning a huge protect on the day of President Bush's 2nd inauguration.

Rather contradictory plans, no?

35 posted on 11/06/2004 1:19:03 PM PST by woofer
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To: Perdogg
Democratic leaders are trying to figure out how to make the party more relevant to mainstream Americans

This is a good start -- admitting that the Democrats do not represent "mainstream" Americans.

36 posted on 11/06/2004 1:19:49 PM PST by fetts (Silence in the face of evil is appeasement.)
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To: Perdogg
"Democrats have started forming their circular firing squads."

Now that is pithy.

38 posted on 11/06/2004 1:23:17 PM PST by ImpBill (Twas a very good election for the Republic!)
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To: Perdogg
Jenny Backus, a Democratic consultant, said the election was closer than Bush's 3.5 million-vote victory makes it seem. She suggested a swing to Kerry of 100,000 votes in Ohio would have given him the presidency.

Translation:

"If we'd only manufactured 300,000 phoney votes instead of the measley 200,000 we did, we'd be in the White House now."

39 posted on 11/06/2004 1:24:38 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Perdogg

Nancy Pelosi's right. The GOP will probably sweep the table in the Red States in 2006. But that leaves us unable to win more territory. The bad news for Pelosi is the Democrats, constituted as they are currently, can't break either into Red State America. We have more of an advantage than they do for apart from California, Blue State population and clout keeps shrinking. I'd hate to be in their shoes for the next couple of election cycles if things remain as they are.


40 posted on 11/06/2004 1:29:59 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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