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THE VETS ATTACK(Viet Nam Vets are exonerated...finally!)
Newsweek ^ | 11/15/2004 Issue | Newsweek Staff

Posted on 11/06/2004 9:24:53 AM PST by kellynla

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I noticed they misrepresented McCain's position again...he only opposed the ONE commercial (the first I think)...but not the ones on Senate Testimony...at least, that is what I recall.

Still..fascinating read


41 posted on 11/06/2004 10:09:03 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: kellynla

The very sympathetic article certain highlights defining character traits of Mr. Kerry, indecisiveness and bad judgment.


42 posted on 11/06/2004 10:13:34 AM PST by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: kellynla
I could use some help from someone with more time and energy than I have right now.

I have a pro-Kerry VietNam Vet neighbor who denied that Kerry implicated all VN Vets in his statements.

I read quickly through Kerry Senate statement and was struck by the very general nature of Kerry's claims insofar as the identity of the perpetrators is concerned.

Kerry referred to "millions" of VN Vets who suffered from guilt after returning to the US. This could only mean that they regretted actions which they took while there.

Kerry also stated that commanders at all levels were complicit in encouraging outrageous conduct. This would presumably include the commanding general of my brigade, thus suggesting that I was being encouraged to commit atrocities.

If someone more familiar with all of Kerry's history could put together about 400 words explaining why ANY VN Vet should be justified in holding Kerry responsible for attacking them personally, I would see to it that my neighbor is informed. Such an account should be very specific with respect to Kerry's actual words, actions, and context.

43 posted on 11/06/2004 10:15:04 AM PST by William Tell
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To: kellynla

44 posted on 11/06/2004 10:15:21 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: kellynla
"The Kerry campaign did work closely with the major dailies, feeding documents to The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Boston Globe to debunk the Swift Boat vets. The articles were mostly (though not entirely) supportive of Kerry, but it was too late. The old media may have been more responsible than the new media, but they were also largely irrelevant."

Astonishing. But the truly astonishing thing? The person that wrote this does not notice the obvious contradiction.

The mask came off long ago, Newsweek, and America did not like the face it saw behind it.

God bless you Swiftees, welcome home.

45 posted on 11/06/2004 10:16:03 AM PST by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: Chapita
It feels just great! I love it!
I'm so glad for you! You and my older brother are about the same age. Back in those days I lived in mortal fear that he would be spit on for wearing a uniform. Thank God, I never saw a vet spat on, and my brother was never spat on-- but then I live in Texas [not in the Austin area]. I don't think that there was much of that going on in Texas.
46 posted on 11/06/2004 10:17:53 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: kellynla

What is still gnawing at me through all this is that Kerry refused to open his full record to public scrutiny, he and the media were allowed to write off the Swift Vets as liars, and so many people continued to openly refer to Kerry as a "war hero". This amazes me on several fronts:

1) If Kerry had the truth on his side, wouldn't he have opened up all his record to scrutiny to bury the Swift Vets? (answer: Of course. Therefore he must not have had the truth on his side--is this too far a reach, or simply a logical conclusion based on knowing human nature).

2) How is it that Kerry was said to serve 2 tours of duty in Viet Nam within the span of 4 months, while there were soldiers who served single tours in 18 months?

3) Does a hero leave his 'Band of Brothers' behind after serving alongside them for only 4 months on, what amounts to, a technicality?

4) Why didn't the US Navy ever investigate the multiple citations for his Silver Star (given that it was apparent that a bogus 'V' was attached to this medal...given that the paper trail indicated, at the least, "extraordinary" circumstances surrounding this award--an award put forth by a candidate for the highest office in the land as proof of his worthiness for the office). In my view, the US Navy needs to come forward and clear this matter up (given this and Kerry's own testimony regarding the late Admiral Boorda's falsified record, which, it could be argued helped foster the mental state that led to Boorda's suicide.)

5) How come all this mattered so little to so few on the Left. Their response to the war on terror was to put forth John Kerry, whom they claimed to be a war hero. They said that this was, in fact, proof that he was a superior candidate to Bush, whose National Guard record seemed "tainted". How come their guys "tainted-ness" mattered so little? (Answer: Because the Left is intellectually dishonest. Period.) How come the press didn't press Kerry on this? (Answer: Because the media is intellectually dishonest. Period.) The truth about all this must come out, if for no other reason than to shout back at the Left, "You were, either wittingly or unwittingly, responsible for perpetrating one the greatest hoaxes in the history of American politics--and that is proof you care less about your country than you do about your own egos and beliefs. Shame on you. Next time, before you act, or even speak, check your level of emotionalism and hatred at the door before it leads to our nation's demise.

I could go on and on. I hope that there is pressure to pursue this outrageous charade that nearly succeeded. Kerry was, is, and always will be a phony, a hollow man, an empty suit. He is a lie made from whole cloth. He is a fantasy cooked up by the 60's-entrenched Left who loved his anti-Americanism more than their own country (will they ever leave Woodstock, go home and live purpose-filled lives?--Answer: Not likely). The truth of this matter has to be revealed so that a charlatan like John Kerry will never rise to within 30 or so electoral votes of becoming president.


47 posted on 11/06/2004 10:21:45 AM PST by MarDav
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To: kellynla
This is an incredible article. It bends over backwards and ties itself in a knot, trying to paint Kerry as an able and clear-thinking candidate with a plan to win. Despite all that effort, Kerry comes across as a rootless, hollow man who never knew what he really stood for.

It's like reading a German history of World War II. The troops and officers were all valiant and capable. They did well in all battles, winning some and doing well in all others. Yet at the end, they (surprisingly) lost. Yet even in this propaganda, the stench of impending defeat leaks through.

And by listing the Swift Vet ads as the first great hurdle, the article manages to show, but not notice, the fundamental reason why Kerry was exposed for what he was, and wasn't, and therefore went down to defeat.

For a more honest review, that skips all the personalities and gets to the heart of the matter, click below.

Congressman Billybob

Click for latest, "Roosting Chickens, and Results of the 2004 Election"

48 posted on 11/06/2004 10:24:01 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Which airing of the Cavett debate did you see? February's or September's? C-SPAN CAVED! After the February airing, which was to have been 5 times over the course of a single weekend, it pulled the 5th show. When I called to request re-airing, they said the "license" was too expensive (from ABC & Cavett), I said C-Span wouldn't have to pay for the license, and C-Span said they "couldn't get it back" (meaning, I suppose, the license). They had no intention--once they discovered how valuable a Bush-asset it was--to air it again--until WELL AFTER the Swifties' ads came out.


49 posted on 11/06/2004 10:25:55 AM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: William Tell

Give your neighbor a transcript of the testimony!


50 posted on 11/06/2004 10:32:09 AM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: kellynla
Historian Douglas Brinkley, author of a wartime biography of Kerry, cautioned that Kerry's diary included mention of a meeting with some North Vietnamese terrorists in Paris. Edwards was flabbergasted. "Let me get this straight," the senator said. "He met with terrorists? Oh, that's good."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

51 posted on 11/06/2004 10:33:37 AM PST by jess35
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To: tjg

"finally exonerated"


NO - not yet!

We have received thousands of inquiries about the "Petition for Investigation and Indictment" of John Kerry. According to our legal scholars, John Kerry's meetings with enemy agents from Communist North Vietnam on multiple occasions between 1970 and 1972 are not covered under Jimmy Carter's amnesty as outlined in EO 4483. For that reason, on Monday, 22 October, we delivered (and confirmed delivery) to U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft a "Petition for Investigation and Indictment" calling on the Department of Justice to determine conclusively whether Kerry's actions, in direct violation of UCMJ (Article 104 part 904), U.S. Code (18 USC Sec. 2381 and 18 USC Sec. 953) and other applicable laws and acts of Congress, constitute treason and disqualify him from any future campaign for any national office. (To read the text of the petitioners' request, link to -- http://patriotpetitions.us/kerry/letter.asp)

As of this date, we have not heard anything from


52 posted on 11/06/2004 10:36:16 AM PST by danamco
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To: Unam Sanctam

No one in the MSM, or O'Reilly either, found any necessity for evidence. Evidence is for you peasants.


53 posted on 11/06/2004 10:45:21 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood; kellynla

> Edwards was flabbergasted. "Let me get this straight,"
> the senator said. "He met with terrorists? Oh, that's good."

This is another amazing revelation.

The ignorance of Edwards is just breathtaking.


54 posted on 11/06/2004 10:53:21 AM PST by Boundless (Move on Arafat. The US Dems need your life support equipment.)
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To: digger48
Now that Kerry is beaten, we need to pursue the release of his records.

All presidential candidates should release their records. Failure to do so means they're hiding something. Hiding something makes you blackmail bait for foreign intelligence services.

55 posted on 11/06/2004 11:24:38 AM PST by Ceebass
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To: Boundless
Edwards was flabbergasted. "Let me get this straight," > the senator said. "He met with terrorists? Oh, that's good." This is another amazing revelation. The ignorance of Edwards is just breathtaking
I think or at least I hope LOL Edwards was being sarcastic.
56 posted on 11/06/2004 11:27:51 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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Edwards was flabbergasted. "Let me get this straight," the senator said. "He met with terrorists? Oh, that's good."

No, John. That's not good.

57 posted on 11/06/2004 11:36:00 AM PST by Samwise (This day does not belong to one man but to all. --Aragorn)
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To: anoldafvet
While I feel somewhat vindicated, I'll not feel truely at rest until Kerry no longer holds any public office. I find it absolutely unbelievable that the LSM has the nerve to call two Medal of Honor winners liars.

The Swiftees deserve our heartfelt thanks. Let's also not forget Sean Hannity, who had them on both his radio and tv show, and gave them national exposure.

Admirable mention also go to Laura Ingraham, Larry Elder and Michael Savage, who repeatedly had John O'Neil on their shows.

58 posted on 11/06/2004 11:40:02 AM PST by Christian4Bush (The drive for 60 in the Senate begins NOW: only 731 days left until the Midterm Elections!)
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To: kellynla

That was a horribly biased article making Kerry look like a hero and the SBVs as liars. It never did say anything about the charges being true. Thank God for the SBVs. This was just another hit piece on their honor.


59 posted on 11/06/2004 11:47:54 AM PST by Merry
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To: Unam Sanctam

During production of "Stolen Honor", Carlton Sherwood approached CSPAN for archived information and film clips. They refused to cooperate.
They would not allow him access to very damaging clips of Kerry.


60 posted on 11/06/2004 11:50:19 AM PST by bear11 (God saved the Republic!)
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