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Continuing Distress on the Jobs Front
Newsmax ^ | Nov. 5, 2004 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 11/05/2004 3:10:37 PM PST by Ahriman

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To: TalBlack

Like it or not, we are all entrepreneurs now.


41 posted on 11/05/2004 4:44:07 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Iscool

Institute a protectionist policy, and let's see if your company keeps a location here in the United States.


42 posted on 11/05/2004 4:44:13 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: ml1954

Would you advise any young adult to get into the IT field. I wouldn't. "

IT WOULD BE MY NUMBER 1 RECOMMENDATION: GET AN ENGINEERING DEGREE.

Do you really think a Liberal arts degree is worth squat?
No, it's not.

There are plenty of opportunities in IT, computers, engineering, semiconductors, EDA, software, etc. ...
if you are really scared of foreign competition, become a civil engineer - they will never be able to outsource road-building and constuction jobs :-)


43 posted on 11/05/2004 4:45:21 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: MNJohnnie
CHINA has lost 50,000 "manufacturing" jobs.

Everything I've read and heard says China is the fastest growing economy in the world...And every capitalist in the world has gone, is moving or is trying to figure out how to get to China...I don't think I believe China has 50,000 less manufacturing jobs than they did a year ago...

44 posted on 11/05/2004 4:47:57 PM PST by Iscool (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten it !!!)
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To: sinkspur; Iscool

Not just that: "...Not a penny stays in the US..."

Iscool, are you a volunteer at this company then?
I mean, if not a penny stays in the U.S. how are you paid?


45 posted on 11/05/2004 4:48:09 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Iscool
Not a penny stays in the US

How about the money they pay you?

46 posted on 11/05/2004 4:52:01 PM PST by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: sinkspur
Institute a protectionist policy, and let's see if your company keeps a location here in the United States.

Doesn't matter if they leave or not...The demand for the products will still be here...In which case an American company will pick up the slack and the profits will likely be re-invested in America thus creating even more American jobs...

47 posted on 11/05/2004 4:52:41 PM PST by Iscool (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten it !!!)
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To: Looper

Im just saying that if you're obsolete, you cant complain about being outsourced by someone that is dealing with current technology. You have to expect it.


48 posted on 11/05/2004 4:54:09 PM PST by SwankyC (C-Btry 1Bn 11th Marines (1990-2000))
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To: Chuckster

1/3 of electricians in New England earn $100,000 per year. It's tough to outsource an electrician.


49 posted on 11/05/2004 4:55:59 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: WOSG
Iscool, are you a volunteer at this company then? I mean, if not a penny stays in the U.S. how are you paid?

Re read the post...The 'company 'profits' leave the country...

50 posted on 11/05/2004 4:56:04 PM PST by Iscool (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten it !!!)
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To: All

As an independent software guy it is my responsibility to make sure i know more and work harder than the other guy, whether he is down the street or across the sea.


51 posted on 11/05/2004 4:56:49 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: Chuckster
How about the money they pay you?

I don't get money...I get peanuts...

52 posted on 11/05/2004 4:57:28 PM PST by Iscool (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten it !!!)
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To: ml1954
Would you advise any young adult to get into the IT field. I wouldn't. It's just hard to compete with someone making 1/10th what you are making

The Indians I work with dont make 1/10th what I make. They probably make 75% and up to what I make. As for getting into the IT field. It's very competitive, but so was the Corps when I got out. They were throwing people out left and right. Im not afraid of the competition because outsourcing aint all it's cracked up to be. You're not worried about your job and your mainstay is C!? Dont you think you should start getting into C++ or C#.

53 posted on 11/05/2004 5:02:06 PM PST by SwankyC (C-Btry 1Bn 11th Marines (1990-2000))
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To: ml1954
The question is would you advise your child to go into these fields?

If a kid is willing to take advice from a parent, I would say get a good general education, and forget specialization. That means math up through calculas. Then I would advise reading "Rich Dad Poor Dad" in the library. As has been mentioned in this thread, the self employeed don't get outsourced, and often make more money than those who work for others. Investment is also a key. Start saving sooner and invest long term.

54 posted on 11/05/2004 5:02:23 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: SwankyC

I loooooooooooooooooooooooooove C#! :)


55 posted on 11/05/2004 5:06:04 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: Ahriman
Continuing Distress on the Jobs Front

yeah,there's too many of 'em.

56 posted on 11/05/2004 5:08:29 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Age of Reason
Half the US population is of below average intelligence.

How are they supposed to earn a living?

Somehow we all manage to muddle through.

To listen to the socialists, millions of Americans are wallowing in filthy slums dying of third world diseases and running wild and emaciated through the streets with leprosy sores oozing in the wind.

This is absolute idiocy.

I know a couple of BILLION people that would trade places with a laid off American manufacturing worker.

57 posted on 11/05/2004 5:09:21 PM PST by Rome2000 (Democrats are perverted socialist crooks)
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To: Ahriman

The declining value of the dollar will help. It will make American product more affordable then imports, and create more US based jobs.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


58 posted on 11/05/2004 5:16:10 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: Chuckster

Bravo. There are a lot of good jobsout there. You need the education and skills to get them. I am a 26 year employee of a telecommunications company. I can retire with full pension in 4 years. If I am lucky to make it that long, I will be 3/4 of the my way to a college degree. I can see the writing on the wall, and I'm not sitting around waiting for the pink slip, I'm getting the knowledge to start a new career.


59 posted on 11/05/2004 5:16:25 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Their candidate uses rock stars to attract crowds. Ours IS a rock star!)
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To: WOSG
if you are really scared of foreign competition, become a civil engineer -

Can't wait until they invent x-ray vison so civil engineers will finally be able to produce a set of documents detailing work in an urban environment that aren't pretty much worthless.

60 posted on 11/05/2004 5:16:52 PM PST by Rome2000 (Democrats are perverted socialist crooks)
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