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A Marijuana Breakthrough?
The Scotsman ^ | Nov. 5, 2004 | David Kohn

Posted on 11/05/2004 1:38:10 PM PST by Ahriman

A decade ago, when Daniele Piomelli went to scientific conferences, he was often the only researcher studying cannabinoids, the class of chemicals that give marijuana users a high. His work often drew sniggers and jokes; but not any more. At the recent annual Society for Neuroscience conference in San Diego last week, scientists delivered almost 200 papers on the subject.

Why all the attention? Many scientists believe marijuana-like drugs might be able to treat a wide range of diseases, far beyond the nausea and chronic pain typically treated with medical marijuana.

Researchers presented tantalising evidence that cannabinoid drugs can help treat amyotrophic lateral sclerosis - known as ALS or Lou Gehrig’s disease - Parkinson’s disease and obesity. Other researchers are studying whether the compounds can help victims of stroke and multiple sclerosis.

Although the chemicals work on the same area of the nervous system, the new drugs are much more refined and targeted than marijuana, with few of its side effects.

"Cannabinoids have a lot of pharmaceutical potential," says Piomelli, a neuroscientist at the University of California. "A lot of people are very excited."


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To: Know your rights

According to your logic, it would be ok or not ok for society to legalize cocaine?


301 posted on 11/22/2004 10:00:44 AM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
So it would logically follow that we do need one less substance to dumb down society and that criminalizing alcohol for adults would be a good policy. Problem is, that conclusion is false, and therefore so is your premise.

According to your logic, it would be ok or not ok for society to legalize cocaine?

According to my logic, "we don't need one more substance to dumb down society" is an invalid argument against legalizing cocaine.

Criminalization of cocaine has had no more demonstable success than criminalization of alcohol, marijuana, or any other mind-altering substance. However, proceeding cautiously with change is a conservative principle; so I support legalization of only marijuana as a first step, and taking any next step only after we've assessed the effects of that first step.

302 posted on 11/22/2004 10:14:44 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
You made the statement, not me.

In response to the posting, "if pot were legalized, that "casual use" (by teens -rp) would NOT BE the extent of its use." you said, "All equally true of alcohol;"

You're the one who acknowledged that the legalization of alcohol has led to its increased use by teens (ie., beyond casual use).

I'm just asking why we would want to do the same for marijuana.

303 posted on 11/22/2004 11:57:05 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights
"My point is that you have not established that illegality did cause a decline in usage ..."

Why should I?

My post #168 stated, "Marijuana has been illegal for almost 70 years now with no end in sight. Marijuana use dropped over 60% from its high point in 1979."

Actually, my statement is contrary to your claim. If, as you say, I claimed that illegality caused a decline in usage, then how on Earth can marijuana be illegal for 70 years, and have a high point in 1979?

You're the one who attempted to correlate legal status in post #189.

Just go away

304 posted on 11/22/2004 12:19:54 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights; WildTurkey
"Criminalization of cocaine has had no more demonstable success ..."

What??? Cocaine use is down. That is success.

If cocaine were legal, use would increase. Ergo, criminalization is responsible (in part) for the decrease, which anyone but you would call a success.

305 posted on 11/22/2004 12:20:17 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
In response to the posting, "if pot were legalized, that "casual use" (by teens -rp) would NOT BE the extent of its use." you said, "All equally true of alcohol;"

You're the one who acknowledged that the legalization of alcohol has led to its increased use by teens

Wrong; "equally true" can mean "both false" as well as "both true."

306 posted on 11/22/2004 12:48:04 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: robertpaulsen
My point is that you have not established that illegality did cause a decline in usage ...

Why should I?

So that's not your claim? I apologize. What is your point in noting that decline?

307 posted on 11/22/2004 12:50:56 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Criminalization of cocaine has had no more demonstable success ...

What??? Cocaine use is down. That is success.

Sorry, once you acknowledged that factors other than legal status affected substance use, you invalidated the argument 'use is down thus criminalization is a success.'

308 posted on 11/22/2004 12:53:55 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

Are you trying to say that criminalization does not work? That we should junk our entire criminal justice system and just go back to everyone meting out justice as they see fit?


309 posted on 11/22/2004 1:20:07 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
Are you trying to say that criminalization does not work? That we should junk our entire criminal justice system

Only the part of it that applies to consensual 'crimes.' Law against violating rights work much better; 63% of murder cases are closed; I'm sure not 1/1000th as many violations of drug laws are even discovered.

310 posted on 11/22/2004 1:54:05 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
63% of murder cases are closed

It is higher than that. Apparently the seriousness of the LE against the crime relates to the success of th effort. I'm sure not 1/1000th as many violations of drug laws are even discovered.

The dreaded WOD must not be that dreaded, huh?

311 posted on 11/22/2004 2:15:39 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Know your rights

Problem is that your thought process is void of logic.


312 posted on 11/22/2004 5:15:40 PM PST by G Larry (Time to update my "Support John Thune!" tagline. Thanks to all who did!)
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To: Know your rights
"Wrong; "equally true" can mean "both false" as well as "both true."

Ah, the eternal equivocator. Far be it from me to expect MrLeRoy to actually take a position on something.

313 posted on 11/23/2004 6:58:31 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights; WildTurkey
"I'm sure not 1/1000th as many violations of drug laws are even discovered."

Just a wild-a$$ed guess here, but could it be that they're not pursued with as much vigor? As you suggesting that drug crimes are equivalent to murder, and that we should treat them as such?

You want 63% closure on drug crimes? That can be done you know, so watch what you wish for.

314 posted on 11/23/2004 7:03:42 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights
The mere fact that cocaine use would rise if legalized validates my argument that criminalization is a factor in reduced cocaine use.

Unless, of course, you wish to deny that legalization would increase use. If so, then state it here and now or shut up.

315 posted on 11/23/2004 7:09:35 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights
Illegality is a factor.
316 posted on 11/23/2004 7:12:56 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: WildTurkey
Apparently the seriousness of the LE against the crime relates to the success of th effort.

I know of no evidence that enforcement of drug laws is less "serious" than that of murder laws.

I'm sure not 1/1000th as many violations of drug laws are even discovered.

The dreaded WOD must not be that dreaded, huh?

I dread the way it makes drugs highly profitable and places those profits in criminal hands.

317 posted on 11/23/2004 10:02:50 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: G Larry
So it would logically follow that we do need one less substance to dumb down society and that criminalizing alcohol for adults would be a good policy. Problem is, that conclusion is false, and therefore so is your premise.

Problem is that your thought process is void of logic.

With no argument to back up your statement, it is no more than a schoolyard taunt.

318 posted on 11/23/2004 10:04:38 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
I dread the way it makes drugs highly profitable and places those profits in criminal hands.

Then you favor legalization of cocaine?

319 posted on 11/23/2004 10:04:52 AM PST by WildTurkey
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To: robertpaulsen
Ah, the eternal equivocator.

Sorry for not adopting your straw men.

320 posted on 11/23/2004 10:06:17 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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