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1 posted on 11/05/2004 11:19:00 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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Ah yes....the inherent hypocrisy of liberalism.

Liberals lovedemocracy until the majority of people support ideas contrary to their own.
Liberals love tolerance unless it involves their tolerating dissent.
Liberals love religion so long as it isn't a convicted faith that actually governs one's life.

I've had many people claim that their opposition to Bush lies in his scary admission that his faith plays a role in his everyday decisions. But do these same people hold themselves to the same standard and realize that many christians are frightened by politicians who base their decisions on humanistic, atheistic, agnostic philosophy?

We all have personal belief systems that govern, to some extent, our decisions and actions. So long as those decisions do not violate the liberties of others or violate existing law, there should be no prejudice against such a person.

How funny that more than half of the country is comfortable with Bush's faith, yet these liberals cannot stand the democratic outcome that illustrates this.

A brief reading of those excerpts shows that those who decry religious people as ignorant, blind sheep are actually the dangerous folks themselves. It is they who are intolerant....it is they who are incapable of logic and reason......it is they who would seek to infringe over others they see as inferior to themselves.




25 posted on 11/05/2004 11:36:10 AM PST by goldseth
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27 posted on 11/05/2004 11:39:57 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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Here's a bio on the author of the Slate piece, Jane Smiley (circa 2000).

"Jane Smiley turned fifty just in time for the new millennium. She lives in California with her three children, three dogs, and her sixteen (and counting) horses.

Born in Los Angeles, California, Jane moved to the suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri, as an infant, and lived there through grammar school and high school (The John Burroughs School). After getting her BA at Vassar College in 1971, she traveled in Europe for a year, working on an archeological dig and sight-seeing, then returned to Iowa for graduate school at the University of Iowa.
MFA and Ph.D. in hand, she went to work in 1981 at Iowa State University, in Ames, where she taught until 1996.

She has been married three times -- to John Whiston (1970-1975), William Silag (1978-1986), and Stephen M. Mortensen (1987-1997). She has two daughters, Phoebe Silag (1978), Lucy Silag (1982) and one son, AJ Mortensen (1992).

Jane is the author of ten works of fiction, including The Age of Grief, The Greenlanders, Ordinary Love and Good Will, A Thousand Acres, which won the Pulitzer Prize in 1992 and Moo, as well as many essays for such magazines as Vogue, The New Yorker, Practical Horseman, Harper's, the New York Times Magazine and the New York Times travel section, Victoria, Mirabella, Allure, The Nation and others. She has written on politics, farming, horse training, child-rearing, literature, impulse buying, getting dressed, Barbie, marriage, and many other topics. She is also the author, from Crown, of a book on craftspeople living in the Catskills. Her new novel Horse Heaven is being published in April 2000.

She is now at work on a novel about sex set in Hollywood."

A real role model if ever I saw one. Remind me to ponder whether Jesus or Jane should be the one for my kids to emulate (NOT!).

Pathetic. The good thing is that we've got things to do over the next four years. They've got only endless handwringing, name-calling, and angst.


28 posted on 11/05/2004 11:41:05 AM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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In the article Boing, Boing claims conservative Christians might "bring back slavery if they want." And the liberals say we're ignorant!

Republicans have historically advanced black rights. We are the party of Lincoln. Republican Senator Lyman Trumbull (R-IL) authored his Party’s 13th Amendment banning slavery, and the Civil Rights Act of 1866 granting full citizenship to African Americans. On February 3, 1870, the Republicans' 15th Amendment was ratified after passing in the House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition. This granted the vote to all Americans regardless of race. During the following years, southern democrats continued to suppress the black vote any way they could.

I'm upset that so many people swallow the lie that the Republicans are Neanderthals racists who turned hoses on blacks to suppress their civil rights. Those folks were the Southern Democrats, under which the KKK flourished. During the era of Jim Crow, Democrats dominated the southern state legislatures, and they proudly called themselves the "Segregationist Party."
29 posted on 11/05/2004 11:42:42 AM PST by keats5
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"In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." - John 16:33

Take joy in our persecution.


31 posted on 11/05/2004 11:47:47 AM PST by Syco
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Ping for later


34 posted on 11/05/2004 11:54:56 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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then THIS JEW is a Christian,no we are Americans!!


37 posted on 11/05/2004 11:57:24 AM PST by rang1995
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...they build the kind of theocracy they've dreamt of, with Jesus at the helm.

Yup, that time is indeed coming, although it won't be done by election and there's utterly nothing that writer or any other human can do to stop it.

I need to pray harder to feel pity for these people instead of loathing. That's an area I admittedly have a problem with, and it's wrong. Yes, they're venomous and hateful, but the Bible told us this was coming, told us they wouldn't listen, told us they would laugh and mock and spite. It's really not that much for us to have to tolerate, given the big picture. I've read the end of the story. We win, and that's an abject guarantee.

MM

38 posted on 11/05/2004 11:58:04 AM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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[Yes, fellow Christians, it is our fault that the Liberals cannot regain their place among the rest of the world]


Well, I have to agree with that up to a point.

I have been praying and fasting for two weeks up until the election for Bush, not just to win, but to win in a mighty way so that the world may know that Bush's God is greater than bin Laden's God and that the USA is a Christian country! Looks like my prayer was answered. Thank You, Jesus.
39 posted on 11/05/2004 12:04:31 PM PST by Taggart_D
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Of course the left hates and fears Christians..it also hates and fears the founding father's version of America

Lesbians, Pedophiles,Trial Lawyers,Union thugs,Organized Crime,Marxists, Islamo Fascists,Hollywoodites, Pornographers, Public School Teachers,Sodom and Gomorrahites dont want anyone to stop them from plying their trades or their vices

The Evangelicals are their greatest nightmare...they are organized...they meet at least once a week and are under no central authority...yet one church belives pretty much like another of its own kind and does so without a central committee to rule over it...

Like sleeper cells that never sleep....

Instead they take their orders from a little book they call the Bible...

The Romans tried to kill them off ...the Chi Coms the Soviets and now the Democrats...no one can kill off the Christians or stop them from worshipping Christ or from living and teaching their children the right way to live...

If a man being evil wants to blame anyone else for his own evil other than himself....he can never be cured...

A disease must be appropriately diagnosed before the correct cure can be implemented

If the dems want to really know what beat them there is a relatively simple explanation...but one must humble oneself before one can accept the truth...


"When a citizen gives his suffrage to a man of known immorality he abuses his trust; he sacrifices not only his own interest, but that of his neighbor, he betrays the interest of his country."
--Noah Webster


43 posted on 11/05/2004 12:25:42 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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"the literal word of the Bible is tremendously contradictory". Had a smart young man repeat the exact words to me one time. I handed him the bible and ask him to show me. Needless to say he couldn't and confessed as much.


45 posted on 11/05/2004 12:34:33 PM PST by usslsm51
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Looking better all the time:


46 posted on 11/05/2004 12:39:02 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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Election Reinforces U.S. Religious Divide
48 posted on 11/05/2004 12:46:48 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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When are we Christians going to take back Christmas from the ACLU?


51 posted on 11/05/2004 1:14:19 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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If Al Sharpton had been the candidate (or granted access to a microphone) he would tell America that it was THE JEWS who denied them the election.


53 posted on 11/05/2004 1:34:27 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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We'll be free to live with our like-minded countrymen who believe in science, modernism, tolerance, religion as a personal choice, and truly want limited government intrusion in our personal lives

This sounds more like the personal philosophy of a libertarian Republican than a "progressive" liberal.

54 posted on 11/05/2004 3:17:53 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Feynman Lives!)
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The left has always been severely Christophobic. But yep, the results of this election have really gotten those juices stirred up again.


60 posted on 11/06/2004 12:37:32 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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