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Blair praises Black Watch, but deaths provoke fury
Times Online ^ | November 05, 2004 | Philippe Naughton

Posted on 11/05/2004 6:57:34 AM PST by Ginifer

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To: pbrown
re : How many British soldiers were killed and wounded in Basra again....I forget.

What a sick and twisted thing to say.

61 posted on 11/06/2004 7:20:14 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
I merely asked a question. You interrupted it in a different manner in which I asked.

That said, you did not answer my question.

62 posted on 11/06/2004 7:27:09 AM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: tonycavanagh

Another typical smart ass quote of a British military man.

"You could call them professional if you want, but as far as I’m concerned they’re nothing of the sort," snarled our tutor"

If you don't want your forces dissed by Americans, you better tell your guys to stop dishing it out to Americans.

Otherwise, go tell it to the Marines.


63 posted on 11/06/2004 7:30:41 AM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: pbrown

Dont play with words How many British soldiers were killed and wounded in Basra again....I forget. Is a sarcastic and twisted.


64 posted on 11/06/2004 7:31:29 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh

"Some of these impressions are no doubt partly informed by what they read in British newspapers, which have taken great pride in portraying "Our Boys" as softly-softly heroes and the Yanks as trigger-happy cowboys."

You reap what you sow. Your papers portray your lads as softly-softly heroes and the Yanks as trigger-happy cowboys.

We will see if the Black Watch will hang; I doubt they will.


65 posted on 11/06/2004 7:33:28 AM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: MplsSteve

Apparently NOT!!!


66 posted on 11/06/2004 7:33:49 AM PST by bandleader
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To: tonycavanagh
Apparently you do not wish to answer my question, so I shall not bother you again with details.

Terrible isn't it when pesky little things like details ruin a discussion.

67 posted on 11/06/2004 7:34:27 AM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: tonycavanagh
Apparently you do not wish to answer my question, so I shall not bother you again with details.

Terrible isn't it when pesky little things like details ruin a discussion.

68 posted on 11/06/2004 7:34:42 AM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: pbrown

Sorry about double post.


69 posted on 11/06/2004 7:37:24 AM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: Max Combined

Get into uniform go out there and show us how its done


70 posted on 11/06/2004 7:38:13 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
"As I see it you think we will slink away"

Gee, I wonder where I got that idea

"That’s what we thought ourselves, that’s what Paul thought as well, WE ALL THOUGHT THAT. I think they should just GET THEM ALL OUT OF THERE NOW because if not we are going to lose a lot more than this."

Heavens, we must not get anyone killed. I guess run might better describe what this Black Watch soldier is recommending rather than slink.
71 posted on 11/06/2004 7:43:34 AM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: Max Combined

Get into uniform go out there and show us how its done


72 posted on 11/06/2004 7:46:34 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh; 537cant be wrong

"he claimed that the Black watch was mover up there to help in your general election"

I did no such thing.

As I have already explained to you, the fig leaf remark was in regard to having British troops in Iraq generally, not in regard to moving the Black Watch north.

I think that when the Rats point out that Iraq is essentially an American operation, they are correct. All the foreign troops, including the British troops are in Iraq to give us cover, not because we need them to win the war.

I do not think that Bush wanted the Black Watch moved north in order to help him in the election. It was never an election issue in this country. All the politics about the move north is in your country, not ours.

I think that the American military would very much appreciate the help that having the Black Watch help them up north and that is why they asked for the help and the British military is willing to help out. All the politics involved with this issue are British politics and I think that British public opinion will force Blair to pull the Black Watch out if there are more casualties.

We well see if I am right or wrong. I hope there are no more casualties, but the very fact that your leftist politicians have made this move a big public issue makes it more likely that the terrorists will kill more Black Watch troops in order to take advantage of your politicians going wobbly.


73 posted on 11/06/2004 7:53:24 AM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: tonycavanagh
"On Iraq the question is why are we there."

We know why we are there. As far as to why the British are there, check with Tony Blair. He obviously thinks it is in Britain's long term best interest to be there. If enough Brits disagree, kick him out. No skin off our noses.

Lord Palmerston, said, nations have no permanent friends or allies. They only have permanent interests.

You look after yours and we will look after ours.
74 posted on 11/06/2004 8:00:45 AM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: pbrown
"I'm sorry they were killed, but that pissed me off when they said it."

Yes, it pi$$ed me off too. Apparently, the Brits think they can diss us with impunity, but are very think skinned when it comes to little payback.

I have nothing but praise for the capabilities for the British troops, but their disrespect of American forces gets old quick.
75 posted on 11/06/2004 8:04:05 AM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: archy; MadIvan

He volunteered to be a British soldier.

What did he think all that running around shooting rifles in training was about?

Tiddlywinks?


76 posted on 11/06/2004 8:05:45 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Max Combined
so what does

Still, I am thankful that they came and helped us when we needed them most, but they were never anything more than a fig leaf. Now that the election is over, we don't need the fig leaf and they will be leaving soon.

Mean what is this talk about election.

There is a real shortage of troops the American military need more recruits, so get your self a pair go down there and enlist.

After Sept 11th I reupped wasnt my country, but as an ally I wanted to do my bit.

So you do your bit.

77 posted on 11/06/2004 8:06:24 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
The murdering terrorist made Spain tuck tail and run but then again Spain is socialist. This war in Iraq is about terrorism. We will fight it there or we will fight it here. I choose we fight it there.

Heaven forbid that when someone joins the military they might actually be required to pick up a weapon.

If the Black Watch is such a bad outfit why are their members such whiners? Have the Black Watch stop slamming our guys and we will reciprocate. What you see here is Americans sticking up for our military fighters.

Something your press needs to spread to it's citizens.

78 posted on 11/06/2004 8:08:43 AM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: tonycavanagh

A 19 year old private makes a statement saying "THE AMERICANS SEEM TO HAVE RUINED IT", which perfectly reflects the general British attitude toward American troops in Iraq.

He feels perfectly comfortable saying this to a journalist because he knows that almost everyone reading the quote will agree with him and that he will catch no $hit from his officers, since they also agree with him. In fact, he probably learned it from his officers.


79 posted on 11/06/2004 8:10:25 AM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: Max Combined
The British troops are fantastic.

They just need to get of our soldiers backs and stop stabbing them in it.

Very unprofessional of them if you ask me.

80 posted on 11/06/2004 8:11:43 AM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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