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Two Nations Under God
NY Times ^ | 11/4/04 | Thomas Friedman

Posted on 11/04/2004 7:44:03 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Well, as Grandma used to say, at least I still have my health. ...

I often begin writing columns by interviewing myself. I did that yesterday, asking myself this: Why didn't I feel totally depressed after George H. W. Bush defeated Michael Dukakis, or even when George W. Bush defeated Al Gore? Why did I wake up feeling deeply troubled yesterday?

Answer: whatever differences I felt with the elder Bush were over what was the right policy. There was much he ultimately did that I ended up admiring. And when George W. Bush was elected four years ago on a platform of compassionate conservatism, after running from the middle, I assumed the same would be true with him. (Wrong.) But what troubled me yesterday was my feeling that this election was tipped because of an outpouring of support for George Bush by people who don't just favor different policies than I do - they favor a whole different kind of America. We don't just disagree on what America should be doing; we disagree on what America is.

Is it a country that does not intrude into people's sexual preferences and the marriage unions they want to make? Is it a country that allows a woman to have control over her body? Is it a country where the line between church and state bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers should be inviolate? Is it a country where religion doesn't trump science? And, most important, is it a country whose president mobilizes its deep moral energies to unite us - instead of dividing us from one another and from the world?

At one level this election was about nothing. None of the real problems facing the nation were really discussed. But at another level, without warning, it actually became about everything. Partly that happened because so many Supreme Court seats are at stake, and partly because Mr. Bush's base is pushing so hard to legislate social issues and extend the boundaries of religion that it felt as if we were rewriting the Constitution, not electing a president. I felt as if I registered to vote, but when I showed up the Constitutional Convention broke out.

The election results reaffirmed that. Despite an utterly incompetent war performance in Iraq and a stagnant economy, Mr. Bush held onto the same basic core of states that he won four years ago - as if nothing had happened. It seemed as if people were not voting on his performance. It seemed as if they were voting for what team they were on.

This was not an election. This was station identification. I'd bet anything that if the election ballots hadn't had the names Bush and Kerry on them but simply asked instead, "Do you watch Fox TV or read The New York Times?" the Electoral College would have broken the exact same way.

My problem with the Christian fundamentalists supporting Mr. Bush is not their spiritual energy or the fact that I am of a different faith. It is the way in which he and they have used that religious energy to promote divisions and intolerance at home and abroad. I respect that moral energy, but wish that Democrats could find a way to tap it for different ends.

"The Democrats have ceded to Republicans a monopoly on the moral and spiritual sources of American politics," noted the Harvard University political theorist Michael J. Sandel. "They will not recover as a party until they again have candidates who can speak to those moral and spiritual yearnings - but turn them to progressive purposes in domestic policy and foreign affairs."

I've always had a simple motto when it comes to politics: Never put yourself in a position where your party wins only if your country fails. This column will absolutely not be rooting for George Bush to fail so Democrats can make a comeback. If the Democrats make a comeback, it must not be by default, because the country has lapsed into a total mess, but because they have nominated a candidate who can win with a positive message that connects with America's heartland.

Meanwhile, there is a lot of talk that Mr. Bush has a mandate for his far right policies. Yes, he does have a mandate, but he also has a date - a date with history. If Mr. Bush can salvage the war in Iraq, forge a solution for dealing with our entitlements crisis - which can be done only with a bipartisan approach and a more sane fiscal policy - upgrade America's competitiveness, prevent Iran from going nuclear and produce a solution for our energy crunch, history will say that he used his mandate to lead to great effect. If he pushes for still more tax cuts and fails to solve our real problems, his date with history will be a very unpleasant one - no matter what mandate he has.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush8ter; bushvictory; crymeariver; thomaslfriedman; waaaaaaaaaaaah
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1 posted on 11/04/2004 7:44:11 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I often begin writing columns by interviewing myself IT'S ALL ABOUT MEE!!!! See ya in 2006.
2 posted on 11/04/2004 7:45:26 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Well, at least he's not bitter.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 7:45:57 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I often begin writing columns by interviewing myself.

I bet that's not all he does himself.

4 posted on 11/04/2004 7:46:15 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The MSM seem unaware that when their boy Billy won by 43% and 49% they never, ever talked this way about "division".


5 posted on 11/04/2004 7:46:34 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Boring!


6 posted on 11/04/2004 7:47:04 PM PST by Max Combined (I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine...)
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To: mabelkitty
It is the way in which he and they have used that religious energy to promote divisions and intolerance at home and abroad.

The left is just seething over the fact that Christians are allowed to vote.

7 posted on 11/04/2004 7:47:49 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Wow!..where to start!


8 posted on 11/04/2004 7:48:52 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Is it a country that does not intrude into people's sexual preferences and the marriage unions they want to make? Is it a country that allows a woman to have control over her body? Is it a country where the line between church and state bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers should be inviolate? Is it a country where religion doesn't trump science? And, most important, is it a country whose president mobilizes its deep moral energies to unite us - instead of dividing us from one another and from the world?"

No, no, no and no.

You got that? Now get your whiny liberal ass on that plane to Paris before I get mad.

9 posted on 11/04/2004 7:49:21 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Actually, just ONE of two nations is "under G-d". The other is careful to keep G-d out.


10 posted on 11/04/2004 7:51:00 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Think good and it will be good!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
... we disagree on what America is.

He's beginning to catch on.

11 posted on 11/04/2004 7:51:05 PM PST by wizardoz (Au revoir, Jean Kerry!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
We can write books about how fringe these Marxists are.

But in the end, it still boils down to one word:

Clueless.

Blue America didn't learn a lesson after 2000. Blue America didn't learn a lesson after 2002. Blue America will not change one thing after 2004. Oh, wait! They will change! Yes, they will seek advice from even more radical extremists from the left so they can be "better prepared" to fight Red America in 2008. Clueless!

12 posted on 11/04/2004 7:52:31 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; lawgirl

What an idiot Thomas Friedman is! Good read.


13 posted on 11/04/2004 7:52:50 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc ( We cannot change the direction of the wind... but we can adjust our sails.)
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To: M-cubed

Indeed. When you compare Bush's first term with the 8 years of Bill "Searching for a Legacy" Clinton, this is laughable. President Bush has laid out a challenge for his second term and based on past performance, he'll do what he says.


14 posted on 11/04/2004 7:53:06 PM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
But what troubled me yesterday was my feeling that this election was tipped because of an outpouring of support for George Bush by people who don't just favor different policies than I do - they favor a whole different kind of America.

This from the party that constantly sceams "EVERY VOTE MUST BE COUNTED" (as long as it's a RAT vote?)

15 posted on 11/04/2004 7:53:43 PM PST by 11th_VA (VRWC Local 1077)
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To: Paul Atreides
I bet that's not all he does himself.

You had to go there.

To make the mental picture even more disturbing,all the Libs. at the New York Times have one "thing" on their mind now.


16 posted on 11/04/2004 7:54:21 PM PST by Redcoat LI (3.5 Million)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
We don't just disagree on what America should be doing; we disagree on what America is.

Finally! It sinks in!
17 posted on 11/04/2004 7:56:02 PM PST by so_real (It's all about sharing the Weather)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Am I in a parallel universe?


18 posted on 11/04/2004 7:56:26 PM PST by digger48
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

How much fun would it be to have been hanging out inside the NY Times newsroom the past few days? They're each taking their turns with primal screams.


19 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:00 PM PST by speedy
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Is it a country that does not intrude into people's sexual preferences and the marriage unions they want to make? Is it a country that allows a woman to have control over her body? Is it a country where the line between church and state bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers should be inviolate? Is it a country where religion doesn't trump science? And, most important, is it a country whose president mobilizes its deep moral energies to unite us - instead of dividing us from one another and from the world?

The most striking thing about this commentary from a liberal, those folks who claim an understanding of the "complex," is the simplistic, immature, concrete nature of the thinking on display here.

I don't subscribe to or read the NYT, but am astounded at the level of simplistic logic displayed in this piece.

20 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:12 PM PST by PLK
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