Posted on 11/04/2004 5:18:47 PM PST by LouAvul
A new survey indicates the number of foreign graduate students enrolling for the first time at American universities is down 6 percent this year - the third straight decline after a decade of growth. Educators worry the trend is eroding America's position as the world's leader in higher education.
The fall wasn't as steep as feared, considering applications last spring were down 32 percent. American universities staved off a comparable decline in enrollment by admitting a higher percentage of students and persuading more admitted students to enroll.
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Screen the Muslim/Arabs; keep the garbage out, dammit!
I agree. Engineering and computer science programs are overrun by foreign grad students. I think a few more of us locals should get those slots.
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Hani Hanjour did not attend school after entering on a student visa in December 2000.It's a very good thing that fewer foreign grad students are enrolling in the US. It means a safer, more secure America.Mohamed Atta failed to present a proper M-1 (vocational school) visa when he entered the United States in January 2001 and had previously overstayed his tourist visa.
Jeez, do you think that the universities might have to stop raising tuition 20% a year now that they can't artificially keep demand high?
The less the merrier.
My wife is a naturalized US citizen from Taiwan (she's been here for 21 years). Almost all her friends and family still live in Taiwan. She has told me repeatedly that, since 9/11, it is much more difficult to get long-term visas to visit the US, especially student visas. This has caused some difficulty for her family members, who, when they visit here, would often stay for a couple of months at a time. We have a niece who is planning on staying with us next year so she can attend school and she is already having trouble getting a student visa, but she can't come over on a regular visa since they don't do the 6-month ones anymore, only 1 month at a time. Perhaps this is good for national security, but I wish the Feds would be a bit more selective. I've yet to hear about a significant threat to our national security coming to our shores from visiting Taiwanese.
While I agree with you in principle, the last time I looked the enrollment rates for Americans in the technical graduate programs was way below where it needs to be to fill up the grad schools. The foreign grad students fill in the gap and many if not most stick around and work in the aerospace and computer industries.
That is not all bad.
If our immigration policies favored college grads that would be a good thing. I worked with Vietnamese PHDs for many, many years. The ones I worked with helped us win the cold war and many were brilliant mathematicians and analysts.
All the more reason to send a message to the bad guys!!! It's evil-morons like THEM who make it difficult, if not impossible for good guys, like your relatives, to come and go as they please......the old saying "one bad apple spoils the whole bunch"........or should I say spoils it FOR the whole bunch??
The scam part of it is that there is no actual requirement of proof of income. So, there is the possibility of setting up shell companies overseas whose main business is facilitating the visas of "management personnel". i.e they charge money to name someone something like "executive vice president of development" while not paying them any money. The company gets their fees, the vice president get their visa and everybody is happy but American citizens.
Give the opportunities to Americans, and the aid and student jobs likewise.
We're sending the right message to those abroad: should crack down on terrorists at home if you wish to send their young people here to study. GOOD NEWS.
Plus, one thing this figure suggests is that we ARE SUCCESSFULLY EXCLUDING TERRORISTS who use being a student as their "legend" with our strict visa procedures. Many of the students from rotten Commie and islamonazi countries were all in a snit about it. Good!
"Dr. Germ," the woman scientist who did WMD development for Saddam Hussein, got her PhD in biochemistry from University of Missouri in Columbia, MO. Throw 'em all out, I say, unless their loyalty is spotless (i.e. make them pass the equivalent of a top secret security clearance, and pay the cost *themselves.*)
That's true, but what's wrong with that? Not everyone is *interested* in the kind of intensive preparation needed to get into a good engineering school and do well there. I would rather see fewer engineers (with higher salaries) than people go into it just because someone thinks they "should."
Similarly, it does not help to fill up AP science & math classes with the disinterested, just because someone else thinks they "should" take these classes.
What our educational system *should* do is identify those students who are suited to and are interested in engineering, and make sure they get the proper preparation.
Similarly, those students who are more vocationally oriented (i.e. precision machine tool operator; HVAC tech, etc.) should be identified and supported in *their* career path. Thinking that everyone should take an engineering-prep curriculum in high school isn't realistic or helpful to those not interested.
Agreed. I was just making the point that our schools focus on 'sensitivity' more than skills required for suceeding in the workplace. We have a bunch of very polite idiots graduating from many of our public schools.
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