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Some Initial Polling Data Shows 35% Increase in Jewish Support For Republicans
Jewish Perspective ^ | 11/04/04 | Kevin Epstein

Posted on 11/04/2004 8:43:23 AM PST by jperspective

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To: hlmencken3
Evangelical Christians provided the Bush margin this time (four million who didn't vote in 2000 by some reports), and I've seen one claim of up to 25 million unregistered evangelicals!

That's because people aching to have something to blame on Da Jooooos will ignore the failings in their own communities and blame it on someone else.

61 posted on 11/04/2004 8:21:01 PM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: NATIVEDAUGHTER
One gets the impression that to so many Jews in America Israel continues to be their main concern above any allegiance to America....

Exactly, it's well known that Jews are disloyal. Clearly, based on their concern for Israel, they'd vote for Kerry.

Then again, when you consider Sharon's affinity toward Bush, and the fact that Israeli Jews overwhelming support Bush, maybe liberal Jews in America are voting based on what they think is best for America, however misguided, and folk like you are simply peddling so much bigoted bull *hit.

The fact of the matter is you can't make the case that Bush is the pro-Israel candidate, then accuse Jewish Kerry voters of dual loyalty.

You can of couse make that accusation to Jews like me and others here who support GWB.

62 posted on 11/04/2004 8:24:30 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: NATIVEDAUGHTER; malakhi
One gets the impression that to so many Jews in America Israel continues to be their main concern above any allegiance to America....

On several threads over the past few days you have questioned the loyalty of Jews to America. If you have something to say, say it. Don't be a pussy-assed bitch and be afraid because you think you might get banned. LF would be happy to take you.

63 posted on 11/04/2004 8:27:15 PM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: malakhi
A good website for basic information on Judaism is http://www.jewfaq.org.

They don't care about what is correct in Judaism. They want to make it up.

64 posted on 11/04/2004 8:29:54 PM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: Bella_Bru; kathrynne
They don't care about what is correct in Judaism. They want to make it up.

Some are malicious, others are innocently ignorant. Since I haven't seen kathrynne before, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

65 posted on 11/04/2004 8:38:47 PM PST by malakhi (This tagline closed for renovations. Look for our new and improved tagline to debut soon!)
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To: jperspective

I talked my Jewish friend into voting Republican for the first time in his life.


67 posted on 11/04/2004 8:47:34 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: NATIVEDAUGHTER
"The difference is the disgruntled 32 Buchananites have America's (not Israel's) interests at heart..."

LOL! Not if their buchananites. The only thing buchanan has at heart is his own over inflated ego.

69 posted on 11/04/2004 10:06:23 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: jperspective
Yes, some improvement.
Jewish vote remains traditionally Democrat
Tal Shneider
According to data published by the National Jewish Democratic Council, the average Jewish support of a Republican candidate since 1972 stands at 27.4%. On the other hand, the Jewish Republican Coalition announced yesterday that more and more Jews vote Republican. According to their data, collected since 1992, the average number of Jews who voted for a Republican in the presidential elections has been rising steadily: 11% in 1992, followed by 16% in ’96, 19% in 2000 and in the 2004 elections, 25% of Jews voted for President Bush.
Reagan got 39 per cent in 1980, and 31 per cent in 1984.

70 posted on 11/04/2004 10:57:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the ping.


71 posted on 11/05/2004 12:46:27 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (America Wins!!!)
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To: joltinjoe

Mayor Willie Brown (on MSNBC) noted that in certain areas of FLA, the ONLY thing that could account for Bush having won more votes than Kerry, would be that Jewish Democrats voted for Bush. YAAAAAAAAY!!


72 posted on 11/05/2004 4:27:00 AM PST by veronica ("Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims." Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: kathrynne
you and I are not in disagreement.....?

Presuming you agree with It's not a "cultural" tradition, the religious status of a child has followed the mother for millenia. Identification of a Jew as a Kohen, or Levite, or Israelite follows the father. we aren't.

73 posted on 11/05/2004 5:12:16 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: NATIVEDAUGHTER

"One gets the impression that to so many Jews in America Israel continues to be their main concern above any allegiance to America...."

If that were true then much more then 25% of us would have voted for Bush.


74 posted on 11/05/2004 6:14:13 AM PST by jperspective
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To: kathrynne

In Judaism religion is determined by the mother. A child born to a non-jewish mother would have to formally convert in order to be considered Jewish. The father's religion does not matter.

The reason for this is because back in the day there was no real way of being sure who the father was.


75 posted on 11/05/2004 6:16:50 AM PST by jperspective
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To: Bella_Bru
What were those Thai numbers, by the way?
76 posted on 11/05/2004 6:46:11 AM PST by robertpaulsen (Jack talk Thai. Jack talk Thai very well.)
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To: kathrynne
I guess my point is that Kerry may not be a religious Jew by proper standards

Your point is completely wrong because your premise is wrong. Kerry is not a Jew at all. He was never a Jew. He is Catholic. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

78 posted on 11/05/2004 8:07:44 AM PST by malakhi (This tagline closed for renovations. Look for our new and improved tagline to debut soon!)
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To: kathrynne; jperspective
I guess my point is that Kerry may not be a religious Jew by proper standards but he as Semite blood that is the point via his father being a Kohen.

Kerry is a Catholic. No segment of Judiasm would consider him a Jew. While Israel might grant him refuge were he subject to persecution, he would not be considered a Jew. Even the Reform community, which recognizes the Jewish potentiality (not descent) of a Jewish father would not embrace him as a Jew. That's because he's a Catholic. Several other posters have pointed this out to you. You really shouldn't talk with such certainty about things you clearly don't know much about.

79 posted on 11/05/2004 8:09:19 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: kathrynne
BTW, to most people Kerry's dad was a Catholic as well, though he could be accurately described as an apostate Jew.

I take no joy in Jews who covert to another faith, however I respect their decision.

Can you explain to me why, when a Jew accepts Jesus as Kerry's dad did in becoming a Catholic, some people have such a desire, in certain circumstances, to consider him a Jew?

80 posted on 11/05/2004 8:24:02 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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