[JohnnyZ]

Snowe ain't gonna lose a primary.

And according to the American Conservative union ratings, Harold Ford's lifetime 20 rating puts him between Sen. Bayh's 22 and Lieberman's 19.

And so you think the three of them are conservatives? 20 on a scale of 100 makes one a conservative? Being 10 points to the right of Hillary makes one a conservative?

You DO understand there's a difference between rhetoric and reality, don't you? Have you never heard of politicians putting on a moderate face for the folks back home?

John Breaux is a moderate. He's at 46. Ben Nelson, 51. Linc Chafee, 43. Specter, 44.

[Remember_Salamis]

20 is moderate/conservative -- for a democrat! Just like Arlen Sepcter's abysmal 43 rating makes him a LIBERAL republican, not a moderate like Dominici (73). Maybe I used a poor choice of words, but you get my point.

[okie01]

20 on a scale of 100 makes one a conservative? Being 10 points to the right of Hillary makes one a conservative?

It's a sad state of affairs when simply being patriotic can move a Democrat from the "liberal" to the "moderate" column.

Perhaps, it would be best to think of Democrats like Lieberman and Bayh as "patriotic liberals" rather than "moderates".