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To: capitan_refugio
I never made mention of a "Battle of Fort Davis."

You claimed that Fort Davis was captured by a military force - your words, not mine - when in fact the fort was (a) abandoned, (b) never formally garrisoned by the supposed "capturing" force, and (c) abandoned again after they used it as a campsite for a total of one single night.

Neither the Missouri nor Kentucky lost their representation in the US Congress.

Lincoln had their senators booted and replaced with his own puppets. He did the same thing with the state governments in Missouri and Maryland, which he rigged in his favor via voter fraud in their next state election.

The actions of renegade legislatures or insurrectionist conventions had no effect on the continuation of those states' loyalty to the Union.

You're still affirming the consequent of your own lame argument. You do so because your argument is not derived from reason and you refuse to employ reason to derive an alternative. That being the case, I see no purpose in attempting to get you to think about it any further.

There were important mineral discoveries throughout the American West in the 1840's and 1850's. Colorado and Nevada both saw gold and silver strikes in 1858.

La-de-da. That still doesn't make California any closer to, say, Gettysburg or Fredericksburg or Vicksburg or even Mesilla for that matter. Bottom line: the far west was on the outer periphery of the war and had barely anything to do with it at all. That which did occur happened in New Mexico and Arizona, which were and are still hundreds of miles away from the territories you speak about.

And every loyal State and Territory in the West provided an allotment of militia, many of whom freed up Federal regulars to return east.

Yeah, all two dozen of them! I'm sure those yankee feds in the east sure felt happy about their "contribution"!

141 posted on 11/04/2004 11:10:43 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
"You claimed that Fort Davis was captured by a military force - your words, not mine - when in fact the fort was (a) abandoned, (b) never formally garrisoned by the supposed "capturing" force, and (c) abandoned again after they used it as a campsite for a total of one single night."

You again misrepresent what I wrote. I simply used the term "captured." "Capture" is defined as "to take poseession of." My terminology was, again, correct. You continue to spread your lies here. Have you no shame?

"Yeah, all two dozen of them! I'm sure those yankee feds in the east sure felt happy about their "contribution"!"

Well, it seems that the western states and territories militia chased those Texans all the way back to San Antonio!

145 posted on 11/04/2004 11:22:12 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: GOPcapitalist
"You're still affirming the consequent of your own lame argument. You do so because your argument is not derived from reason and you refuse to employ reason to derive an alternative. That being the case, I see no purpose in attempting to get you to think about it any further."

Not at all! The actions of the Neosho "legislative" session and the Kentucky convention were legally invalid and of no consequence. Neither body had any right or legal power to conduct business in behalf of the loyal citizens of the states. They were not much more than criminal enterprises.

146 posted on 11/04/2004 11:27:15 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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