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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Twenty-One

Posted on 11/03/2004 12:20:59 AM PST by nwctwx

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To: Godzilla; penguino; Velveeta; Oorang; SlowBoat407; toomanygrasshoppers; fullwave; British chick
We also have the analysis of a line in one of the replies on the 'Sweet Islam' board to the post BC passed on via the Tracking Terrorism website: 'three lamps west, two lamps east' (or something like that) indicating three sunsets and two sunrises from the time of the post.

Was this passed on the Homeland Security, too? I've not gone back to look at the post with the date stamp, but someone said that it could indicate an attack on the 7th if one takes the time from the posting. (Is that sunset on the 7th or sunset on the 6th?)

I've got to run. Tell us on the thread if you pass this on, otherwise I'll write an e-mail of the discussion this afternoon to send to the FBI. (I hope it's not too late.)

1,261 posted on 11/06/2004 7:00:16 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: penguino

I googled "Arabic septar" and got this oil drilling company as the first thing -I was expecting romantic poetry!!

I know a lot of people who are expecting romantic poetry and end up with a drilling rig.


1,262 posted on 11/06/2004 7:04:36 AM PST by SlowBoat407 ("Don't bother giving me liberty: I'll take it for myself, thanks.")
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To: knak
Wait a minute, this ship is delivering underthings to Dolly Parton!
1,263 posted on 11/06/2004 7:12:23 AM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: Domestic Church

I am sure they do...


1,264 posted on 11/06/2004 7:12:39 AM PST by RepublicanArmy (God bless our Troops, Our President, & God Bless America!!!)
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To: The_Reader_David

3 lamps east and 2 west where she stops only


knows.

That's the correct text, possibly implying 3 sunrises and 2 sunsets, or the third dawn after the posting which was 7:47 A.M. on the 5th. If that was Eastern time, the sun had not yet risen over Texas, so the third sunrise would be on the 7th.

Too many variables to be sure, so I welcome any further information or correction.


1,265 posted on 11/06/2004 7:13:34 AM PST by SlowBoat407 ("Don't bother giving me liberty: I'll take it for myself, thanks.")
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To: SlowBoat407

"three lamps in the west, two in the east"


Think of targets.... major ports with tankers or refineries on the water.


1,266 posted on 11/06/2004 7:17:18 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church

that too, but to reiterate (since I transposed them in the first place), it's:

" 3 lamps east and 2 west where she stops only


knows."

I hate to get a bad interpretation because I was too tired to write it correctly last night.


1,267 posted on 11/06/2004 7:20:08 AM PST by SlowBoat407 ("Don't bother giving me liberty: I'll take it for myself, thanks.")
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To: Oorang

"Port and starboard lights"


Is it possible to use these as a trigger mechanism? I'm thinking about that signalbomb thing-a-ma-jig found on the freight rail line in southwest Philly.


1,268 posted on 11/06/2004 7:23:25 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church

Marker lights on vessels are burning constantly, so it would be hard to use them as a trigger. Signals for bridge lifts include radio calls or horn blasts, and some channel markers flash at timed intervals for identification.


1,269 posted on 11/06/2004 7:25:35 AM PST by SlowBoat407 ("Don't bother giving me liberty: I'll take it for myself, thanks.")
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At least the Netherlands is beginning to wake up.

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041105-111203-2758r.htm

THE HAGUE — The Dutch government yesterday vowed tough measures against what a leading politician called "the arrival of jihad in the Netherlands" after a death threat to a Dutch lawmaker was found spiked with a knife to the body of a slain filmmaker by his radical Muslim attacker.
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Deputy Prime Minister Gerrit Zalm agreed with comments by other politicians who called Mr. van Gogh's slaying a declaration of Islamic jihad, or "holy war."
"We are not going to tolerate this. We are going to ratchet up the fight against this sort of terrorism," he said. "The increase in radicalization is worse than we had thought."
Among measures under consideration is an emergency law to enable authorities to revoke the Dutch nationality of dual citizens suspected of terrorist activity so that they can be deported.
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Jozias van Aartsen, parliamentary speaker for the nationalist People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD), the second-largest party in the government of Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, issued a statement that called Mr. van Gogh's slaying tantamount to a declaration of war.
"The jihad has come to the Netherlands and a small group of jihadist terrorists is attacking the principles of our country," he said. "I hope the Netherlands will now move beyond denial and do what is fitting in a democracy — take action.
"These people don't want to change our society, they want to destroy it," he said.
..........


1,270 posted on 11/06/2004 7:35:31 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

Headline for above article:

"Netherlands braces for 'jihad'"


1,271 posted on 11/06/2004 7:37:22 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: kimmie7

On the last tape we saw OBL does look ashen, and uremic from chronic illness. Along with the possibility of a broken nose, aging and some illnesses and immune conditions can cause the nose to coarsen and thicken.


1,272 posted on 11/06/2004 7:41:32 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: SlowBoat407

In Boston - a very eastern area in the US - the LNG tankers come right into the harbor and up river to Chelsea. They go past the Boston financial district, the Fidelity trading installation, Old Ironsides and the condominiums where the Boston Bin Ladins lived. It's been estimated that if one of them was hit that the entire downtown Boston area would be destroyed as well as Logan Airport and beyond. IIRC the area destroyed would be at least 5 miles in diameter. Every time they bring one of those ships in (about once a week) there is high security. Most of the LNG depot locations are in less populated areas. Does anyone know if Houston has LNG tankers?


1,273 posted on 11/06/2004 7:47:56 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: All; SlowBoat407; WKUHilltopper; The_Reader_David
Was called into work today.....Checking in and setting placemark.

Nothing usual to report around here.

Excellent discussion and analysis as of late.

Welcome to TM SlowBoat40, WKUHilltopper, The_Reader_David. Glad to have you folks aboard!
1,274 posted on 11/06/2004 8:07:19 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Threat Level: SEVERE {due to Ramadan} -- Basic list of survival gear @ my FR Homepage)
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11/06/2004 # 1
TerroristWarning.com Headlines 11/06/2004 # 1

TerroristWarning.com Terrorism Headlines 11/06/2004 # 1

National:

[IHT] USA - Group tied to Al Qaeda issues threat to U.S.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/11/05/news/briefs.html

[AFP] USA - Qaeda warns US of ‘unbearable hell’

http://www.bahraintribune.com/ArticleDetail.asp?ArticleId=50150&CategoryId=2

[Indianapolis Star] INDIANA - Suspicious item leads to airport evacuation

http://www.indystar.com/articles/2/191898-8242-093.html

[NBC4 TV] CALIFORNIA - LAX Terminal Reopens After Suspicious Package Scare [ False alarm ]

http://www.nbc4.tv/travelgetaways/3894896/detail.html

[York Dispatch] NEW YORK - Suspicious box blown up

http://www.yorkdispatch.com/Stories/0,1413,138~10023~2513564,00.html

[KWTX] TEXAS - Suspicious Powder Found Inside Waco Post Office

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/1159906.html

[Fox Carolina] NORTH CAROLINA - Suspicious Substance Arrives At Post Office

"At least 12 people from the post office were taken to Oconee Memorial Hospital . At the same time five other people at a doctor's office across town were complaining of similar symptoms"

http://www.whns.com/Global/story.asp?S=2519513&nav=2KPpSjyA

[ABC News4] SOUTH CAROLINA - Teacher Finds Envelope Leaking A White Powder [FBI investigating]

http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/1104/184638.html

[KCRA-TV] CALIFORNIA - Suspicious Package Found On Broadway

"Authorities said they are still investigating a phone call claiming there was an explosive device at the store"

http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/3889886/detail.html

[Champlain Channel.com] NEW YORK - Crews Try To Remove Suspicious Package From Postal Center

"package contained an unidentified piece of medical equipment"

http://www.thechamplainchannel.com/news/3890198/detail.html

[WCAX] VERMONT - Suspicious Package Not Hazardous [ Vial of unknown substance, determined ot be oil ]

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=2528703&nav=4QcSSou1

[Ap] IOWA - Powder in Iowa envelope found not hazardous

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1638&u_sid=1249136

[WTVF] TENNESSEE - Bomb Threat Called in to Southwest Airlines [ Jet evacuated ]

http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/7736.asp

[TheDailyPress.com] NEW MEXICO - Bomb threat forces closing of I-10 near Lordsburg [ On Greyhound Bus ]

http://www.thedailypress.com/artman/publish/article_2577.shtml

[Local6.com] FLORIDA - Mechanic Finds Live Bomb Under Car During Oil Change

http://www.local6.com/news/3894992/detail.html

[Click10.com] FLORIDA - Car Bomb Mystery Becomes Somewhat Clearer

"Published reports indicate that the owner of a car that had what was thought to be a bomb attached to it Thursday is a fundraiser for the Irish Republican Army"

http://www.local10.com/news/3892329/detail.html

[WNBC] NEW JERSEY - Cops Destroy Bogus Pipe Bomb In N.J. Park

http://www.wnbc.com/news/3895704/detail.html

[UPI] NEVADA - Report: Terrorists prowling Yucca site?

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041105-113306-1471r.htm

International:

[AFP] THE HAGUE - Nothing suspicious found at US embassy in The Hague after bomb threat

"police had received a warning that a car filled with explosives was heading for the US embassy in The Hague"

http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=32984

[Ross-On-Wye Journal] UNITED KINGDOM - Powder sparks chemical alert after M50 crash

"Thirteen people were later taken to hospital complaining of itchy hands and faces"

http://www.rossonwyejournal.com/news/publish/article_4610.php

[ABC News Online] AUSTRALIA - Powder yet to be indentified after navy base scare

"none of the eight are showing any signs of sickness or distress, and are cooperating with medical staff"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200411/s1235250.htm

[Press Trust of India] INDIA - Terrorists storm BSF camp in J&K; 2 killed

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1092882,000900010002.htm

[Reuters AlertNet] INDIA - Indian troops capture rebel stronghold in Manipur

"Indian army says it has attacked more than 100 rebel bases in Manipur since Monday, killing more than 20 rebels and capturing 34"

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/B436722.htm

[UPI] RUSSIA - Russia finds, defuses pipeline bomb

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041105-020644-2871r.htm

[Jerusalem Post] ISRAEL - Security forces find 40k bomb by security fence

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1099634901273

[Reuters] LITHUANIA - Lithuanians Hunting Missing Radioactive $100 Bill

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=753&e=9&u=/nm/20041105/sc_nm/lithuania_radioactive_dc

[Atlantic Online] IRAN - Will Iran Be Next?

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200412/fallows

[AFP] IRAN - Last-chance Iran-EU nuclear talks deadlocked: diplomat

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2004/November/middleeast_November135.xml&section=middleeast

[AzerNews] AZERBAIJAN / IRAN - FM dismisses rumors on use of territories for strikes on Iran

http://www.azernews.net/view.php?d=5275

[Interfax-Azerbaijan] AZERBAIJAN / IRAN - NATO not planning to deploy bases in Azerbaijan

http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/28.html?id_issue=10718481

[AFP] AZERBAIJAN - NATO chief to meet with Azeri leadership during visit

http://www.spacewar.com/2004/041104165141.g634e21k.html

[AFP] RUSSIA - Russian forces claim to kill two Turks in Chechnya

http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=32989

[Interfax] RUSSIA - Georgian mercenary reportedly detained in Chechnya

http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/28.html?id_issue=10717955

[Xinhuanet] FRANCE - ETA leader arrested in France

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-11/06/content_2184008.htm

[UPI] ISRAEL - 2 children killed in Gaza explosion

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041105-055853-2728r.htm

[AP] NETHERLANDS - Dutch politicians beefing up security after 'arrival of jihad'

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/news/46845.php

Assasination Watch :

IRAQ: Deputy Governor of Baghdad Hatem Karim - Assasinated

RUSSIA - Russian air force general - Assasinated, suspects at large.

NETHERLANDS - Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh - Assasinated, suspects captured.

1,275 posted on 11/06/2004 8:10:33 AM PST by tmp02 (Don't come to the US. We too are dipping our bullets in pig's blood)
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To: JustPiper

Thanks JP. It will be good to hear from Nena on this.


1,276 posted on 11/06/2004 8:17:48 AM PST by Oorang (I want to breathe the fresh air of freedom, at the dawn of every day, it's the American way.)
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To: MamaDearest

Thanks, as always, MamaD.


1,277 posted on 11/06/2004 8:18:22 AM PST by Oorang (I want to breathe the fresh air of freedom, at the dawn of every day, it's the American way.)
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To: Oorang
Septar necturly passed she lips on a lawn of golden jewels;Tip of the EarthX passes And She bled' On googling "septar"; there is a U.S. Navy boat

Thanks for doing all that Google research. Appreciate it!

1,278 posted on 11/06/2004 8:33:50 AM PST by MamaDearest (With God all things are possible!)
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To: JustPiper
There is a wonderful doctor named Burzynski in Texas

In South America there is/was a doctor named Arigo, known as doctor of the rusty knife. There is a book about him and his wonderful skills. For some reason some are gifted with supernatural skills and the world is better for it.

1,279 posted on 11/06/2004 8:43:32 AM PST by MamaDearest (With God all things are possible!)
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To: knak
Hmmm,
Beginning to think too much time has passed with this new tape business. I'm beginning to smell a rat.

Well done everyone with the analysis of my post from the other day. That was quite some collective brainstorming!
1,280 posted on 11/06/2004 8:44:46 AM PST by British chick
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