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To: tpaine

You don't need to try to preach political philosophy to me - I've studied and read it. You're talking abstract, I'm talking concrete: The states, on their own volition, took it upon themselves to create a new federal government under a new Constitution; states delegated certain limited powers to the federal government they created; states ratified the U.S.C.; states amend it. The federal government is a creation of the states, which in turn theoretically represent we the people.


88 posted on 11/10/2004 5:58:08 AM PST by HenryLeeII ("How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a shameless political stunt?" -Tony in Ohio)
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To: HenryLeeII
HenryLeeII wrote:

You don't need to try to preach political philosophy to me - I've studied and read it. You're talking abstract, I'm talking concrete:

You were "talking abstract" in #86:

Nowhere did Jefferson, Locke, or anyone claim that all citizens have the right to coin their own money or perform those other functions that by their very nature must be centralized to one degree or another.
86 HenryLeeII

I proved you wrong with Benson's essay on 'The Proper Role of Government', but you can't admit it.

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The states, on their own volition, took it upon themselves to create a new federal government under a new Constitution;

How weird. -- You keep acting as if states have some life of their own.
People created the 'state'. -- And our new Constitution, - one that controls both the new fed & the old state governments.

states delegated certain limited powers to the federal government they created; states ratified the U.S.C.; states amend it. The federal government is a creation of the states, which in turn theoretically represent we the people.

"Theoretically"? That slip pretty well sums up your philosophy. -- You really do think that the 'State' is the peoples sovereign, don't you..

Have you ever considered that you are spouting the 'communitarian' line?

90 posted on 11/10/2004 7:00:43 AM PST by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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