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To: tpaine

I'm sorry, I don't remember your question about the 14th.
I will answer it if you'll point me back to it.

So, you don't believe that there is any level of government, either the federal government, or the states (or, I suppose, municipalities), that has any power at all - either in the legislature, or in the executive, or in the judiciary, or - presumably - in the people voting in a ballot initiative, that has the authority to decide when life begins.

Query: would your answer change if what was involved was a constitutional amendment? If two-thirds of each house of Congress and three quarters of the States agreed to amend the Constitution to say that under American law, life begins at conception, would that succeed in establishing that principle as a matter of law?


118 posted on 11/11/2004 11:11:22 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: Vicomte13
Vicomte13 wrote:

I'm sorry, I don't remember your question about the 14th. I will answer it if you'll point me back to it.

#111. -- It helps if you read all your replies.

So, you don't believe that there is any level of government, either the federal government, or the states (or, I suppose, municipalities), that has any power at all

'So', do you think framing leading questions is debate?

- either in the legislature, or in the executive, or in the judiciary, or - presumably - in the people voting in a ballot initiative,

Not to mention convoluted & rambling as well.

that has the authority to decide when life begins.

No I don't, as was clear in my post at 115: 'The contention that legal person-hood begins [and can be protected by the state] at the instant of conception is incompatible with our principles of common law.'

Query: would your answer change if what was involved was a constitutional amendment? If two-thirds of each house of Congress and three quarters of the States agreed to amend the Constitution to say that under American law, life begins at conception, would that succeed in establishing that principle as a matter of law?

No. -- We cannot 'amend away' our freedom. -- Amendments repugnant to our basic principles of individual rights, under our rule of Constitutional law, would not be valid. -- Check out Marbury v Madison [1803] for an early view of this matter.

119 posted on 11/11/2004 1:06:56 PM PST by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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