Posted on 11/02/2004 6:08:00 AM PST by kcvl
Edited on 11/02/2004 10:00:20 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE NOV 02, 2004 09:06:35 ET XXXXX
UPDATE: VOTES 'FOUND ON MACHINES' IN PHILLY BEFORE POLLS OPEN
Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- Republican poll watchers believed they found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered in heavy-minority locations throughout the city.
Republican poll watchers claim:
One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8.
Pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500...
A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day.
ANOTHER INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa..
ANOTHER: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa...
MORE...
The Kerry Campaign says reports of votes already on machines are 'false.'
"Serious news will not appear first on the DRUDGE gossip website," senior Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart told reporters.
Officially, election officials explain the discrepancy is being caused by a number showing how many times various machines have been used.
But officials could not explain why used machines in other locations were reportedly 'clean.'
Elsewhere, a gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and quickly surrounded the location...
Developing...
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The report I heard on the news was they were left over votes from the Mayoral Election
Local GOP Says Internet Reports About Fraudulent Voting in Phila. Are False
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266546/posts
Philly politics have been so corrupt for so long, nothing surprises me. Mayor Street already was on Fox news claiming everything was fine and that Kerry was going to win . Not too partisan, huh? Expect more reports of cheating from Philly as day continues.
All that over a tree??? LOL!
Yes, the REAL critical fact here is an examination of WHY those other machines (assuming they were the same type of machine and used for the last election)are "CLEAN". I wait on tenterhooks a reasonable explanation of THAT. ANYONE WHO can follow this PLEASE POST back to this thread and BTT!
Ohio Papers Determined to Cover Polling Places, Despite Sec. of State's Ban
By Joe Strupp
Published: November 02, 2004 11:25 AM EDT
NEW YORK Despite a directive from the Ohio secretary of state barring reporters and photographers from polling places, some newspaper editors are urging staffers today to ignore the order and seek access to voting sites until they are ordered out.
"We are going to proceed on the assumption we will get in and will until we get thrown out," said Doug Clifton, editor of The Plain Dealer in Cleveland, who estimates that up to 50 of his newsroom staffers would be visiting polling places Tuesday in the hotly contested state. "They were getting in this morning [Tuesday], but not everywhere."
In addition, at least one paper -- The Columbus Dispatch -- has registered newsroom employees as election challengers so they gain access to polling places.
"We filed to be challengers because election officials said they would strictly enforce laws regulating who can be in polling places -- voters, poll workers and challengers only," Dispatch Editor Ben Marrison wrote in a column. "Dispatch staffers are registered as challengers for every precinct in Franklin and Delaware counties."
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000697509
It's been a long, hard-fought fight all year and I think there is nothing more to be done except have a beer, for tomorrow the real fight may just begin. Everyone step back, then step up to the bar and have one on me. Y'all deserve it. We'll be talking about this election for the next 20 years.
Yes they are erassed via UV light. There are also electricaly erasable proms, but it would not make any sense to use them in this case. One thing of note. It is possible to modify data in a EPROM without erasing it. Each bit in the EPROM is either a 1 or a 0. After being erased(Cleared) these bits will all be 1. So a 8 bit location would read "FF"(HEX) If you take the least significant bit and "Burn" it to a 0. Then the location value would be "FE" You can never change that burned bit back to a "1" without erasing the whole prom. But you can ceartainly go back and burn any of the other 7 bits to a "0" if you want.
So if I go back and burn the 2nd significant bit to a "0". then I get "FC" as new value in that location since that bit has a value of 2 Hex. So all other security aside- then it would be possible to modify its contents without erasing it.
Of course you may already know all of this.
There probably are good explanations for why votes show up on the "odometers" of some machines, but not others. I;ve read that typically, the machines are examined at the opening of the polls, and if they show any votes, the pollwatchers are obligated to "roll them back" to zero.
This COULD have been the proverbial "honest mistake" owing to benign neglect, but it's also something that could be a conscious and very sneaky way of milking several hundred votes in the D column, and claim innocence when discovered
using the above explanation. It's designed for "plausible deniability". On the other hand, if the machine's odometer simply showed raw votes , with no allocation to D or R or Independent, then it IS mere negligence, and wouldn't benefit ANY candidate. The numbers would be as neutral as the number of miles on a car's odometer.
There probably are good explanations for why votes show up on the "odometers" of some machines, but not others. I;ve read that typically, the machines are examined at the opening of the polls, and if they show any votes, the pollwatchers are obligated to "roll them back" to zero.
This COULD have been the proverbial "honest mistake" owing to benign neglect, but it's also something that could be a conscious and very sneaky way of milking several hundred votes in the D column, and claim innocence when discovered
using the above explanation. It's designed for "plausible deniability". On the other hand, if the machine's odometer simply showed raw votes , with no allocation to D or R or Independent, then it IS mere negligence, and wouldn't benefit ANY candidate. The numbers would be as neutral as the number of miles on a car's odometer.
Local GOP Says Internet Reports About Fraudulent Voting in Phila. Are False
KYW Newsradio ^ | 02 Nov 2004 | KYW Newsradio
Posted on 11/02/2004 9:28:42 AM PST by SwinusMaximus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266546/posts
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Supposedly it's some kind of clicker to show how many times the machine has been used. Beats me why such a thing would be needed, other than "time to service".
Not to worry..... It's in capable hands.
They are getting a jump on reaching
100%+ in their vote tally
Tue Nov 2, 9:54 AM ET
While I was home for lunch they were talking about it on Channel 6 Action News and Fox News.
They said nothing about it being false, in fact, they said the local GOP had "proof".
Who nose.
Did you know this story has been debunked??
Rusty technology for rust-belt states. I voted on a paper ballot. Took less than a minute, because I had a sample ballot sent in the mail. No waiting in line, even though the voting site was filled to capacity with voters.
Paper ballots don't require a machine, so there was room for nearly 20 simultaneous voters, and it's a small precinct.
Florida will have most of its counting done within an hour after the polls close. In 2000, the counties that used optically scanned paper ballots had zero errors, and finished their recounts in almost no time.
LOL! Was it one of those frightening elementary school drawings of a gun?
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