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To: RGSpincich

TH's are speculating that someone is holding out or not deliberating???


207 posted on 11/08/2004 11:25:36 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O; spectre

Okay......I'm ready for a verdict. I'm sick of politics!


208 posted on 11/08/2004 11:33:16 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Jackie-O

Wonder if #6 is still picking at his fingernails.

I can't see MD/JD having a best seller if the jury is hung. The next foreperson would probably outshine him. A nice double count of 1st degree, with a penalty of death would make a best selling story, imo. ;-)

Maybe Strawberry Shortcake can tag in for #6. Didn't Justin have one or two little details that he was hanging his haton? SW, you porbably nailed it; I wonder if #6 somplained about no forensic evidence and a wobbly boat...

Pinz


209 posted on 11/08/2004 11:33:20 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Jackie-O

Jurors Tell Judge They May Be Unable To Reach Verdict
POSTED: 7:48 AM PST November 8, 2004
UPDATED: 11:31 AM PST November 8, 2004


REDWOOD CITY, Calif. -- Jurors deliberating Scott Peterson's fate indicated Monday they may be unable to reach a verdict.

Judge Alfred A. Delucchi summoned jurors to the courtroom Monday just an hour and half after they resumed deliberations. They got the case Wednesday afternoon and spent the weekend sequestered in a hotel after deliberating through Friday.

The judge reissued instructions to the jurors on several key points.

"The people and the defendant are entitled to the individual opinion of each juror," the judge said. "Do not hesitate to change your opinion for the purpose of reaching a verdict if you can do so.

"The attitude and conduct of jurors at all times is very important," he added. "It is rarely helpful for a juror at the beginning of deliberations to express an emphatic opinion on the case."

It was not immediately clear what exactly led to the judge's instructions, which took about five minutes.


Delucchi had summoned jurors to the courtroom shortly after he allowed the panel to inspect Scott Peterson's boat and -- over the objections of defense attorney Mark Geragos -- allowed two jurors to climb into the craft.

After the boat viewing, Geragos sought a mistrial, claiming jurors violated the judge's order by doing "a juror experiment" when several of the panelists got inside the boat and rocked it from side to side. The judge quickly denied the motion.

As an alternative to a mistrial, Geragos asked the judge to be allowed to show jurors a videotaped experiment performed by the defense.

Peterson is charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife, Laci, and the fetus she carried. Prosecutors claim Peterson killed Laci around Dec. 24, 2002, then dumped her weighted body from his small aluminum boat into San Francisco Bay.

The remains of Laci and the fetus were discovered a few miles from where Peterson claims to have gone fishing alone the day his wife vanished.

Defense lawyers have argued that it would have been nearly impossible for Peterson to have heaved his wife's 153-pound body over the edge of the boat without tipping.

Geragos did a videotaped experiment apparently showing the boat would have tipped, but Judge Alfred A. Delucchi ruled against allowing him to show the video to jurors during the trial.

"The juror was in there. The juror was standing inside the boat, shifting back and forth," Geragos told the judge.

the judge had instructed jurors before deliberations began not to conduct any experiments.

"I didn't know they were going to jump up and down on the boat," the judge said.

"I don't want a mistrial ... I want to show my demonstration," Geragos replied.

Jurors viewed the boat and its trailer in a parking garage near the courthouse.

The judge said jurors "carefully examined the sides of the boat."

He then ruled against Geragos' motion for a mistrial or to allow jurors to view his experiment.

Given that the boat was not in the water, "they should bear that in mind in their consideration," the judge said. "I think this works both ways. It can work for the prosecution's benefit. It can work for the defense's benefit."

Jurors entered their third full day of deliberations at about 9:10 a.m. Monday. They got the case Wednesday afternoon.

The judge has decided to allow them to deliberate only Monday-Friday. Twenty-one bailiffs have been sworn in to watch over them throughout the process.

Jurors have two choices should they decide to convict Peterson -- first- or second-degree. First-degree convictions, carrying the death penalty of life without parole, would mean jurors believe Peterson planned the killings in advance. Second-degree murder convictions don't require a finding of premeditation, and carry sentences of 15-years-to-life for each count.


210 posted on 11/08/2004 11:35:37 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Jackie-O

If he is blatantly refusing to deliberate he can be replaced. It's a stretch but it happens.


225 posted on 11/08/2004 12:28:06 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Jackie-O

Jackie - IF they are not deliberating - ass gone!! Simple as that.


241 posted on 11/08/2004 2:02:19 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (IAll us Western Canuks belong South!!!)
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