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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
You have picked no side. We are at war her (metaphorically speaking) and you are dressed up in a clown suit, frolicking in the woods next door! I am sympathetic to your cries for smaller government and the like but the only way to really change a party is from within. Voting for a third party might make you feel good but it does NOTHING to change anything. Hope you feel good about yourself. Let me know when you actually want to start engaging in the political process once more.
25 posted on 11/01/2004 10:08:20 AM PST by GmbyMan ("Government is not the solution to the problems we face! Government is the PROBLEM!!!"-Ronald Reagan)
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To: GmbyMan


I agree with working from within the party to correct it. But if the leadership on top prefers convenience over principle, then down ticket candidates (like Toomey, Herman Cain, etc.) are rejected by the party leadership (these candidates it was said are too conservative and will cost us Senate seats. Maybe, but I doubt it with Cain in Georgia. A black conservative male running against a liberal black female in a conservative state - HELLO!.)

Then, I ask what good is it working inside the party if those making the decisions are interested in winning elections with little regard for our Constitutional safeguards?

I feel it to be a Hobson's choice. Don't fret - I'll vote for Bush, but not with a lot of enthusiasm.


33 posted on 11/01/2004 10:17:11 AM PST by glockem (Consensus is the lack of leadership)
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To: GmbyMan


I agree with working from within the party to correct it. But if the leadership on top prefers convenience over principle, then down ticket candidates (like Toomey, Herman Cain, etc.) are rejected by the party leadership (these candidates it was said are too conservative and will cost us Senate seats. Maybe, but I doubt it with Cain in Georgia. A black conservative male running against a liberal black female in a conservative state - HELLO!.)

Then, I ask what good is it working inside the party if those making the decisions are interested in winning elections with little regard for our Constitutional safeguards?

I feel it to be a Hobson's choice. Don't fret - I'll vote for Bush, but not with a lot of enthusiasm.


40 posted on 11/01/2004 10:24:48 AM PST by glockem (Consensus is the lack of leadership)
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To: GmbyMan
You have picked no side. We are at war her (metaphorically speaking) and you are dressed up in a clown suit, frolicking in the woods next door!

I'd rather be in a clown suit frolicking in the woods than to be demanding respect while on my knees servicing my 'man'.

Voting for a third party might make you feel good but it does NOTHING to change anything.

So, in 1992, GHW Bush lost the election because he failed to convince a majority of voters that he was the best man for the job?

Congratulations! You're one of the few Republicans who believe that Perot did NOT cause Bush to lose.

65 posted on 11/01/2004 11:14:39 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: GmbyMan
I am sympathetic to your cries for smaller government and the like but the only way to really change a party is from within.

I recall twenty years ago when a large group of influential Libertarians defected to form the RLC within the Republican party. In twenty years they've had zero effect that I've noticed, in fact, the Republicans have gone in the opposite direction.

Seems your argument falls rather flat. Our cries for smaller government fall on extraordinarily deaf ears.

88 posted on 11/01/2004 11:42:43 AM PST by jimt
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