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To: robertpaulsen
You and I have been dancing this dance for years now.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

This means We do this. Us. The civilians are telling government how they are going to run things. Period.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

This says it applies everywhere within the US. Period. A Law being made in Chicago falls under the "Laws of the United States". They are rightfully limited under the "Suprememe Law of the Land" clause. Despite your Dredd Scott racism inspired court rulings.

The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.

This says that the States ratified this and agree to all of it. Including ceeding certain legislative powers to the Federal Government and accepting the strictures prohibiting action that violated the above.

The conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added.

This says that some in the States didn't feel that there were enough protections for certain Rights they felt all free men needed to stay Free. That no one, at any level of government, should have power to deny these Rights and that placing such protections at the highest levels of government would gaurentee these Rights for ALL citizens of the United States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This says, that because an armed citizenry is a Free citizenry, that the Right to Defend yourself and the weapons necessary to do so can never legally be limited, regulated out of existance, or denied. Period. No mention of "only in certain States" or "accept in homerule cities". This applies EVERYWHERE the US FedGov has power. It is a basic Right of a citizen. Period.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Because of racist scum, this was necessary to get the idea through some thickened skulls that these PROTECTED Rights apply to EVERYONE who is a citizen of the US. Period. "No State shall make of enforce any law" is every bit as unabiguous as "shall not be infringed". Each State has to ratify these Amendments, so saying "homerule" provisions or "incorperation" fictions apply are outright LIES. Why would a State ratify an Amendment saying "No State shall make or enforce a law" then turn around and violate that Amendment right off the bat?

No RP, you have an agenda here. It is clear to most of us thta you are a shill. A troll. And a waste of time.

39 posted on 11/01/2004 8:13:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: Dead Corpse; robertpaulsen; Everybody
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

DC wrote:

This says, that because an armed citizenry is a Free citizenry, that the Right to Defend yourself and the weapons necessary to do so can never legally be limited, regulated out of existence, or denied. Period. No mention of "only in certain States" or "accept in homerule cities". This applies EVERYWHERE the US FedGov has power. It is a basic Right of a citizen. Period.


No RP, you have an agenda here. It is clear to most of us that you are a shill. A troll. And a waste of time.

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Well said, DC.

I see our boy has no reply, as is typical..
He will strike again tomorrow on another thread, spreading his same anti-constitutional message.
His agenda is quite simple. By cloaking his anti-gun message concealed within a 'States Rights' package, he makes it attractive to other confused conservatives who value order higher than liberty.
41 posted on 11/01/2004 3:57:14 PM PST by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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